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I Am Annoyed With Onboarding New People To Hive
Pinoys are being taught to cater to whales and large centralized curators. Whales are demanding long form content. This doesnt work and we are here to change the game. prepare for change!
God I ask you for clarity and focus as I seek solutions to challenging problems. All glory to you God I surrender to your will, guide me in my journey let your lamp light my path.
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STOPVery well said!
Probably the longest time I spent watching a video from 3speak. It's a nice take on the onboarding experience and not a single remark I would disagree on. If you want to try ranting content, I'll be looking forward to it.
Not trying to make this about HivePH but one area you raised about how curations work"
Onboarding in HivePH is focused on giving users the choice between how they want to approached their blogging. If they want bigger rewards, they have to play the long form content game because that's where the money is most of the time. They don't have to, nobody does, but it's a natural direction because that's the motivation for signing up to the platform in the first place. There are few creators that don't subscribe to long form content and I think it's fine if they have modest reward expectations. So I just said screw, as long as the content ain't spam or plagiarized, everyone gets a vote in the community. My personal opinion alone, I don't care whether one makes a long form or short form content, as long as they get something out from the platform with their time and effort and maybe even do acts of good while they're at it, that's good enough reason to vote for them
From a user retention stand point, hell yeah. Not everyone is a content creator but in order to get something off here, they have to wear a different hat than they would usually do somewhere else.
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I am excited to share the bayanihan culture with the rest of the world.
Thank you for the kind words. I will take some time to reflect on your feedback for my growth.
Lets never forget to God all the glory!
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I've been deep diving Hive for a month now. IMHO it is sad but the system is there to help it carry out for years (I guess?). No offense to the community trails without them I wonder where is the Hive blockchain now. The change will be difficult. But if we as a Hive users fixed are mindset thinking it will benefit the blockchain itself and the community in the long run it will be easy (long ways to go 😀). Change starts on ourselves no one can tell you to change. It should be the desire or passion in you that will say "I'm gonna change now for a better future of myself and my family"!
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It serves a purpose for those that want to passively invest their stake and earning some income while away. I don't really see myself babysitting my investments if I had a large stake and would be better off automating things or handled by people that share like interests. You need to convince the people that follow these trails which accounts to follow or what stuff they need to automate.
Thank you for the reflection note. 😊 It's a great help for me to understand the content.
Looking forward to the change that you want to implement. 😊
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I think most people put a lot of effort in their posts. When I made my intro post, I also spent a lot of time, almost a week, just to get a good impression from people at the start of my journey.
I personally think the important thing here on Hive is to make connections with people, the genuine ones. Most people may not find your content out there but if you have relationships with people on the platform, then you’ll probably get some visibility. Just my thoughts. And I usually tell this to the people I onboard on Hive. It’s nice to make content but also connect with people.
Long or short content, I don’t really mind but I agree that some communities prefer long ones. If you want them to notice you, you’ll have to abide by their rules.
Anyways, good luck and looking forward to hearing more about your progress!
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You're welcome. 😊
Wow 1 week for your intro articles!
Regarding your feedback on relationships I 100% agree with you and this is what I'm thinking about the most. The journey of the new person before they have had the time to build relationships. If we can solve this we nail it.
Let God light the way!
Hahaha I also spent some time looking and reading at our people's introduction and learning about Hive, so at least I was quite productive with my time. 😂
Regarding building relationships, I think most are being done in discord so if the newbies don't know about discord or couldn't make friends in discord, they'll really have to do a lot of commenting and engaging in the platform. Lately there are chats here in the platform but it's not yet being widely used in most communities.
I appreciate you sharing your experience here Arcade this is a valuable insight. Though it is a rant, I would agree with your points given.
3 days intro?
I did mine for five minutes or less. HAHAHA
this has been a pun in the community for an intro that should not be done.
This one's kinda sad as Pinoy's were thought to follow the huge HP guys, with the people that I onboarded I never told them to do so. I just informed them to be active with the community that they want to belong to and make meaningful connections within if possible. This creates extra legwork but who cares, we are being monetized for such activities, and comparing it to other social media platforms this one's better.
As shared by Witty and Adam short and long-form content doesn't matter to us as long as it doesn't plagiarize or spam the community. One or two posts a day is enough perhaps.
Retention is hard as people come and go as we all have different agendas for joining here but overall if a person is not rewarded properly, especially the new guys, they become more demotivated to use this platform. ( We experienced zero upvotes and zero cents back then in a post so we are kinda used to small rewards)
Some are also afraid of interacting as they are not fluent in English. Hence as a way to help increase the retention of the users, I tried my best to have the Tagalogtrail community be active so that when new guys try to join, there's a huge chunk of content written in English and Spanish, they will have at least a space wherein they can freely write in our native tongue without any restrictions or whatsoever. (The downside is the upvotes as I don't have the HP to support it I am relying on HivePH's bot for upvoting some of the contents for extra reward).
After making this video I have become a bit more aware of what HivePH is doing. The Tagalogtrail was a great idea and a great start. HivePH is a blessing. Lets get PH communities holding more HP and organize under the bayanihan culture. This is a keep it simple focus for us.
We pray to you God keep the Hive foundation strong as we rise. We pray to you God that you keep blessing us as we push ourselves. We pray God you keep our focus sharp as we aim for our destination. All the glory to you God tell us what you want us to do next. We will execute your will!
The thing is, if you wanna change things here on Hive you have to be part of the Hive-powers-that-be. Meaning you have to be a whale and with a large voting power (and perhaps even a witness) because otherwise they will gang up on you and downvote every post you make. Now if someone's purpose here is to make money (and share big upvotes to others) that will put a damper on that person's enthusiasm to even write and be here at all.
The purpose of Hive has always been to earn money from it. This is why Steemit got a lot of users who wrote stuff and eventually Hive. Despite the whales, curators and community moderators saying it isn't so, it is. No one will even want to be here if they won't be upvoted. Whales preferring that we write long content and then you see spam and short content getting more than $10 upvotes. Hahaha. What a joke right? This is why I don't bother onboarding people for the longest time.
All the good ones curators/supporters are gone. Like minnowsupport and other group/curators. Or only a trickle remain, the vestiges of previous groups/curators. This is why Hive has become a toxic place to be in. Those that remain and run the place don't care much about others if one does not follow their rules. Dictatorial much. Haha.
Oh well if you can make a change then that's well and good. God bless your efforts to change things on here.
Yeah, it's definitely more challenging to create an account and get to know your way around the ecosystem, but if you stick to it, you can easily make a few extra hundred dollars a month. I do my regular offline work and I do HIVE too and it's no free lunch.
Well, come to think of it, I have had a few free lunches doing #spendHBD videos :) maybe I'll make some more of those.
Thanks for the video friend.