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The Libtards Have Arrived
The Libtards Have Arrived
"Minnowsupportproject" https://steemit.com/trending/minnowsupportproject has come out with at set of rules for anyone in the group. It's always worrisome when a group of people get together, and go around telling others what to do. Do we really want people with different views to be shut up? I think most of us want to be free to say what we want, about whatever we want. We don't need people flagging our posts because we used the word "guys" instead of "people" or whatever word is acceptable with the progressives nowadays. If steemit is to get as big as I'm sure all of us would like, its extremely important we keep it free of censorship. So how do we stop this from happening? One way would be to avoid joining socialist groups who promise things like upvotes if you join them.
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I know what your thinking. "oh, you don't want censorship yet you want to stop the freedom of groups to speak out". No, that's not what I'm asking for. I'm just using the freedom I do have, in the hopes no more people join that group. I'm not going to flag them or anything because I believe everyone has the right to say what they want. Just like I hope I don't get flagged for speaking my mind, but we all know the libtards wont let this go unflagged. so again, what can we do about censorship? I think steemit needs to get rid of that fucking flag. Its no good for freedom of speech. Fuck the flag and everything it represents. These groups who seek to control the content on steemit that gets popular should go back over to facebook with all the other liberals and injoys the censorship of any other views. This platform was made by freedom lovers, for freedom lovers who believe in a fair and free market. As for the evil group, dont join. If they get a big enought following, anything and everything they as a group dont like wont have a fighting chance. If your part of that group, you should think long and hard about what your helping promote. Lets keep steemit free of controllers who seek to censor.
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If you look at the comments in this post you can clearly see the Libtard/socialist group came out in full force to shut me up. Problem is people like me don't give a flying fuck about the money, and don't get scared off that easy.
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Can you elaborate more on how this particular group are censoring / doing a bad thing? preferably using specific examples and providing evidence.
Also the flag is a down vote.
I provided a link in my post, check it out. They say "In addition you should know-No porn, No hate speech, No inciting violence, No personal attacks.
All original work or use something like pixabay for your images.
No shitposts (just an image or youtube without text)"
How are they censoring you say. Well they have a large group of people scanning the posts set on flagging anything and everything they don't like. Everything is subjective. whats hate speech to you might not be to someone else. Does a decentralized platform really need to have those controls? Why not let the community decide? Isn't that the appeal of steemit? A decentralized social media with freedom at its core. Not some group leader promising you up votes if you just follow the rules THEY have decided to set.
You provided a link to the tag for minnowsupport, not to any evidence of wrongdoing.
Large group of people flagging? please provide evidence of this.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, MSP is a project designed to add value to steemit by promoting an attitude of helping one another, support rather than tearing one another down, don't bloat the chain with crud. (shitpost/copypasta).
Plagiarism is actually against the terms of Steemit. I guess you didn't read that bit, so here you go.
Plagiarism, Spam, and Abuse
What are Steemit’s policies on plagiarism and spam?
If you are posting plagiarized or copied content, you can get in legal trouble for violating copyright laws. Plagiarized posts and spam are seen as abuse and will be downvoted by community members. If you are posting or using someone else’s content, you must ensure that you have the rights to use the content, and properly reference the sources where you got the material from.
Is it okay to use random pictures from the internet?
If you are using an image that is not your own, make sure you are allowed to use the image, and cite the source of the image.
Using random pictures from the internet without giving credit is discouraged. You may, however, use photos from “free image” websites such as Pexels.com or Pixabay.com. All photos on Pexels and Pixabay are free for personal and commercial use.
Here is a post from @mindover that has links to many websites that have images you can use:
https://steemit.com/steem-help/@mindover/don-t-plagiarize-images-here-are-13-free-and-legal-ways-to-find-high-quality-photos-you-can-use-on-steemit
What is Steemcleaners?
Steemcleaners are a group of Steemians concerned with plagiarism, copy/paste, spam, scams and other forms of abuse on Steemit.
https://steemit.com/steemcleaners/@steemcleaners/announcing-steemcleaners-the-steemit-abuse-fighting-team
What is @cheetah?
@cheetah is a bot developed by @anyx that scours Steemit for copy/pasted content. Cheetah will not downvote copied content, but it alerts other users to look into it further.
Abusive accounts (serial plagiarists or identity thieves, for example) will go on Cheetah’s blacklist. These users will get downvoted by @cheetah accounts when they post.
More information on the @cheetah bot can be found in this post:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@cheetah/faq-about-cheetah
Where do I report a post or comment that contains plagiarism, spam, or abuse?
You can report any abusive content to the #steemitabuse channel on steemit.chat.
If you have evidence of wrongdoing, please show it.
Are you part of that group or something? Let's have a look........Yep, just what I thought. Thanks for proving my point. Keep on keepin on friend. You're here to tell me what I should or shouldn't say on a decentralized platform because some leader of yours has made a list of things we shouldn't do. Its a form a bullying and one step away from censoring even thought you could easily censor me with your little flag in the corner.
At no point did I say what you could or couldn't say.
I merely asked for clarification and evidence for your claims.
Have not bullied you either. <3
Let's have a look at who up voted your reply. yet another minnowsupportpoject progressive out to spend all day on steemit telling people what they should or shouldn't do. Unbelievable, just when you start to think there's hope in the world the progressives find you hiding is some of the last free places around. Next stop for steemit, youtube like censorship.
You're trying to paint a picture of me with a dirty brush right from your first comment. It's the same tactics the MSM uses on any guest with an anarchist capitalist view. The public is wise to these games and can't be fooled anymore.
If censorship to you is not being allowed to steal and profit from another persons hard work, that is rather interesting. If you don't like the rather loose rules governing participation in the minnowsupport project you are quite free to not participate. So I'm not sure how that effects you personally, but it seems to have caused some issue.
You have not addressed anything I have asked for further clarification, just played your spin out further. I am done attempting to discuss this with you.
Good day to you Sir/Madame.
The guidelines are for our members to follow best practices. Of course you are free to post whatever you deem fit. Who is to stop you?
You have a very skewed opinion of our community. We discourage our members from flagging as it leads to flagging wars.
I really have no idea what you have against a community of minnows helping and supporting each other through their early Steemit journey. You are not forced to join.
The very first post I saw from your group had a lot of don't do this don't do that. I thought to myself, that's an odd post to have on steemit. The place people run to when their youtube site is getting censored. I felt like making a post about it. Now here I am being double teamed by two members acting like the progressive nice guys. Sorry, I'm not buying it. Mr nice guy over here jumping in acting like your group has no affect on other people on steemit. Its obvious the creator of your group is here to eliminate any opposition to the liberal/progressive/socialist movement.
Finally
Then you really have no idea who or what our 'leader' stands for or any of the witnesses/whales that support the group and you are way off the mark.
Enjoy your delusions and conspiracy theories.
Please note you have not been flagged.
Have a good day Sir/Madam
Bringing out the celebrities to prove your point are you? You got whales support do you? Buahahaha go fuck yourself. I care not who supports your dumb group. I'm more of a no leader type of guy. I don't believe in slavery.
Good luck with your illustrious steemit journey. I can see you going far.
Or, you could provide the evidence as asked and stop playing the victim game. But you won't because that doesn't fit your narrative or agenda.
Go to minnowsupportpoject and see her posts for yourself. She believes in internet IDs for porn site "to save the children" I've seen this liberal/socialist talk before and will not be fooled. In one interview a moderator or worker at MSP went as far as saying "Will our selections be subjective? Not as much as you’d think. We’re putting together a panel of experienced authors, editors, and industry professionals who are very qualified to gauge commercial appeal. Our upvotes won’t be based as much on personal choice" Oh really? so you're telling me, you people as a group will decide what gets upvoted. I see. right from the beast's mouth. Socialism at its finest trying to infiltrate a decentralized platform.
Go follow your leader slave.
I think he'll go as far as upvoting his own posts and comments will take him.
Then again, I'm just a "rich" celebrity what with my 372 STEEM and all.
Dude, post your porn, hate speech, stolen content, and libel us. You'll have fun. It'll be awesome. Just don't upvote it with our community bot. I mean, the steemit community might flag the shit out of you, but it wont be an organized effort by Minnow Support Project which I founded.
Those guidelines are for votes used from within that specific community using publicly delegated Steem Power. If you're going to use our SP to vote your own shit you have follow our guidelines, which I'd argue are pretty fuckin' low bar. That said you can do whatever the fuck you want on here. You get enough rope to hang yourself, which seems to be working out for you. Welcome to Steemit.
Yes, that's how freedom of speech works. Apparently you're not a big of fan of it as you claim. Groups have the right to set their own guidelines, correct? Or do you think that you should be allowed to do as you wish, when you wish, wherever you wish? Think long and hard on that. Those guidelines are not for the steemit platform, but for participation in that group, which is freedom to participate or not.
Again you guys try to paint me with a dirty brush. Did I at any time say I wanted to post porn, hate speech, or stolen content? I simply believe in people's freedom to do so if they should feel the need.
should I quote again "Will our selections be subjective? Not as much as you’d think. We’re putting together a panel of experienced authors, editors, and industry professionals who are very qualified to gauge commercial appeal. Our upvotes won’t be based as much on personal choice"
I agree! My post was to warn those joining the group of its sinister motives.
And yet you completely misrepresent the context of that quote
Right. Well, good luck with that.
Don't let facts get in the way of a triggered moron.
Not like I quoted one line. It says what it says and that's that. I could have just quoted the last sentence but I didn't. I know liberals very well and how they try to spin things. That's why I posted more than just the one line that says it all.
hey baron, this is mqc, just joining you in your epic battle for intelligent thinking against whoever...I am on your side!
So you feel you are owed a book deal? Because that's what the post is about if you took the time to read it. I get comprehension isn't your best trait but it's there in black and white. How could you miss it?
Yes, you took a set of guidelines from a sub group project of a group and used it to spin an entire community. You know spin very well, you're just not very good at doing it yourself.
They think i haven't done my due diligence and went over many of MSP post. Just in two days I've seen them call for internet IDs for porn sites and this great quote "Will our selections be subjective? Not as much as you’d think. We’re putting together a panel of experienced authors, editors, and industry professionals who are very qualified to gauge commercial appeal. Our upvotes won’t be based as much on personal choice" They have every right to post what they like, as do I. My post is to warn people of the sinister socialist motive behind the group. Even if they can't see it themselves. Sometimes the brainwashed can't be helped.
Well, it didn't fit his narrative.
This is true, comrade
Well, you haven't done your due diligence, unless you can identify who "she" is and how it affects the group as a whole.
My due diligence was to see the kind of shit your group is pushing, and it didn't take long to find out. Now you want me to tell you what, who , where, when, and why. Sorry bud, i've done enough work on this story. You got the what, where, when, and why. If you want the who go look for it yourself. while you're add it don't forget to go champion your leaders ideas for internet IDs and have a nice day. I've said what I wanted to say and that's that.
I will translate your back-peddling into english : "I fucked up, made a post without really knowing what it was about, got called on it, then will run with my tail between my legs while pretending that I did due diligence" So, yes, when you make a claim, I want to know the who, what, and when. Especially when you talk shit. If you don't want to continue with your chest puffery, just say so, don't pretend that you're taking a stand and then back away when you get called on it.
These groups who seek to control the content on steemit that gets popular should go back over to facebook with all the other liberals and injoys the censorship of any other views. This platform was made by freedom lovers, for freedom lovers who believe in a fair and free market. As for the evil group, dont join. If they get a big enought following, anything and everything they as a group dont like wont have a fighting chance. If your part of that group, you should think long and hard about what your helping promote. Lets keep steemit free of controllers who seek to censor.
Hey baronious - do you want steemit to grow? That'll mean steem goes up, and the rewards for all of our content creation go up.
But, steemit won't grow very far if only extreme libertarians are allowed in.
There's just not that many of you in the world.
(And yes, I'm part of the minnowsupportgroup #teamaustralia before you ask. If you want to check my credentials, I recommend my posts on American gun culture. Cheers.)
You're confusing control of an entire platform with the guidelines of a particular group uses to have a say on how THEIR community works. There has been zero censorship of STEEMIT nor has there been any inclination to do so. FREEDOM includes the right for groups to conduct themselves any way they see fit.
Okay, here's the thing. This isn't about "rights," or censorship. It's about someone who got kicked or banned (or threatened with such) from the MSP group for infringing on the "rights" of others in some way. I would bet real money on that. It's about a temper tantrum, a toddler who didn't get his way.
If it were truly about "rights," then this counter-argument would carry weight: others have rights, as well. Others have rights to live free of harrassment, free of bullying, free of pornography, free of hate speech, free of violence and personal attack. Those rights will always supercede someone's "right" to shit all over them and call it freedom.
As for The SFT, I'm sorry that you feel your fiction will be disqualified from curation by publishing industry professionals. You must already know it's not up to par, or you wouldn't be offended by an established standard of quality. I'm sorry that you grew up thinking that every kid in the sack race gets a blue ribbon, even the one who sat and pouted and wouldn't hop his turn. Equality for all, right? Even the underachievers.
Whatever the case, I'm only replying because from time to time I enjoy how much the idiocy of others makes the rest of us look so much smarter. You wanted attention? Well, you got it. You don't get to pick what kind of attention you get. At least you had the sense to use a fake account. Maybe you haven't fried every brain cell just yet.
First of all, I would like to thank you for admitting that your group has censored posts in your community. Now that a moderator has admitted guilt, the minions can stop demanding more evidence. Secondly i'd like to thank you for admitting that you think it's the right of the people to live free of harassment, free of bullying, free of pornography, free of hate speech, free of violence and personal attack. Sure, you're right if you had worded it differently and said "In our private group everyone has the right to bla bla bla bla bla." Key word "Private"
So let's just pretend you did say it that way. You madam are working for a group that is a threat to me and many others who share my values. Your group's values have been used so many times in history to destroy healthy and prosperous societies the world over. The world is a mess today all over and I believe a lot of the problems stems from the overwhelming leftist world we now have.
My goodness, it's your kind that believes everyone gets a blue ribbon. As long as you join the race and stay inside the sack, right? Those are things the left has brought to society.
"established standard of quality"? who established this standard? who's checking for quality? Your group? Fuck your gay group full and nancy men and women who would rather spend their lives fighting for the rights of animals, over the rights of the people. I've been sent here to destroy your group and everything it stands for. I care nothing about money. I'm a healthy human full of skills. When I need money, I go get it. I don't need to join some socialist group and abide by the rules to make a few bucks and feel good about myself. I feel good about myself everyday I fight for the freedoms of others.
Her running a book publishing book is a threat to you? Do you really fear that much? Just admit that you are a scared little man and move on. No one has censored you nor have you proven anything to the contrary. You can destroy nothing. You're just a sad man looking for attention. Besides. If you did your due diligence as you've claimed, you would know that the actual leader of the group already posted here.
@swelker101, have you figured out wtf he's even talking about? Not me. Dude is either on drugs or needs to be. He's enjoying the attention--possibly from inside a minimum security prison where he cashes his merit badges for time on the Internet--totally clueless about the definition of "anarchist" or the fact that we're all having a good laugh at his expense. I think I know who this is, by the way. And that makes me even less interested in his nonsensical rambling. See you on the censorship channel, welker. ;-) LOL
If the bot didn't have so many different people's SP delegated, I don't think they would need to put restrictions on how it is used. They are simply trying to avoid using other people's voting strength that was given to them to possibly upvote something they wouldn't approve of.
That isn't censorship, it's merely being fair to all the people who sent SP to the bots.
@aggroed himself removed all his flags in a flag war when he realized it caused that account to no longer have the ability to post. He hates censorship. You are wrong to accuse him or the MSP community of that.
What the hell are you doing here? If you want to flirt with your internet boyfriend do it somewhere else.
I had a quick look at your posts. If you didn't have the power of the group behind you, no one would ever want to read your shit. To be real with you, its about as bad as it get. Boring as shit and about only as good as a sleeping pill. Be a real man and walk your own path without the training wheels MSP is offering you. Your group is the definition of everyone gets a blue ribbon. For the record, you started with the personal attacks.
Oh no!!
Oh no! I've been censored! I'm so offended. This threatens me as a human being and an anarchist. For suddenly it seems that I do not have the right to free speech. Suddenly it seems that I do not have the right to say what I want to say, when I want to say it. Apparently there's a set of rules on this post and they infringe upon my basic freedoms. This post must have been made by a socialist libtard who thinks its okay to control what other people think and say. This is a disaster and spells the end of steemit and freedom of anarchists everywhere. Whatever shall we do?
All hail the Great @Rhondak! Besmirch not the name of the mighty leader of the Fiction Workshop lest she loose upon thee her ravenous dog pack led by the loyal Raccoon Lord! Tremble before her fiction curation trail as it cuts a brutal path through shitposts and provides a douche-free chat room where we lowly fiction writers peer review and boost each other up as Father Marx instructed!