With all due respect @stan and all the false hate preachers and false priest not to include both goverment and media propaganda agains both Muslims and Islam. Like I said many times before seek knowledge and knowledge shall set you free. Now let's get back to facts not fiction I am not interested in lies and propaganda. Let's investigate if Quran is prophet Muhammad made up words or is it God words revealed to Prophet, "MUHAMMAD" P.B.U.H" I ask all of you to do research and look at this evidence from the bible. But before we get started let me point out what the critics are going to use as an excuse like always. "if the bible is corrupted? why are you using the bible to prof" MUHAMMAD" P.B.U.H" to be a messenger of God. The simple answer is if you take a glass of water and add orange juice. The water is no longer 100% pure and that is what the bible is but you can still find, some TRUETH in there. Now let's look if Prophet "MUHAMMAD" P.B.U.H" was Prophesied in the bible both by "ISAIAH" and, JESUS"
ISAIAH 29:12-14 King James Version.12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. Now all Christians and non Christians alike know the Quran was revealed to Prophet "Muhammad" P.B.U.H" who is not Learned. As @sean-king pointed out "JESUS" P.B.U.H" was literal and not illiterate. and now we are going to look at another prophecy again in "IASIAH"
Isaiah 42:11New International Version (NIV)
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Let the wilderness and its towns raise their voices;
let the settlements where Kedar lives rejoice.
Let the people of Sela sing for joy;
let them shout from the mountaintops.
What I find strange is when I am searching Isaiah 42:11 in Google search "sela" is not found in the bible? because some Christians are trying to hide the truth like always! If you are going to do your research and don't find "sela" in Isaiah 42:11 add "sela" the whole reason is because "sela" is in saudi arabia city of madina. Ref
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sela_(Saudi_Arabia)
I know some Christians will come up with excuses regarding "sela" what excuse will you give regarding Aisiah 29:12-14? and also what excuse will you use? regarding what Jesus himself is telling his followers. John 16:7
But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.
New Living Translation
But in fact, it is best for you that I go away, because if I don't, the Advocate won't come. If I do go away, then I will send him to you.
English Standard Version
Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you.
John 16:13-15
John 16:13-15New International Version (NIV)
13 But when he, the Spirit of truth,comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. 14 He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you.15 All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”
I am giving you evidence from your own bibles and for those who prefer watching rither then reading watch this
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No hate here. Just a passion for the truth. If you want to give us evidence from our own Bibles, then take the full context not just a single verse interpreted wrongly.
I have now patiently showed you three times that what you are saying about the Spirit of Truth referring to Muhammad is clearly not true. It's obvious. You never comment on these refutations in past posts, you just start a new thread and make the same false claims over and over again.
I guess all I can do is keep reposting the answers every time you do this...
You quote this verse trying to say it refers to Jesus promise to send Muhammad while ignoring the verses two chapters earlier that tell us exactly Who the Spirit of Truth is:
Jesus, as God, is promising to send His Spirit to dwell in all believers. Muhammad does not live with us forever and is not "in" us.
Compare this to the verse your video quotes two chapters later:
This was fulfilled 50 days later (not 700 years later), as described in Acts 2:1
Muhammad is not a Spirit and the fact that both Muhammad and the Spirit of God have masculine pronouns is the weakest argument I have ever heard. It could equally apply to me, since I am also referred to as a "he".
Muhammad did not glorify Jesus and did not claim he was sent by Jesus. He tried to demote Him from God to second place prophet lower in stature than himself.
This video teacher should know better and the fact that he fails to teach the obvious full Scripture shows a shameful intent to deceive his listeners -- therefore he cannot be trusted to teach you any truth. And since I shared this with you just a week ago in another post, you are now guilty of doing the same kind of deception.
If you are looking for places where Jesus referred to future prophets, you might look here:
Matthew 7:15
Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
Matthew 24:5
For many will come in My name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many.
Matthew 24:24
For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible.
If we go into the Old Testament, you and I will really need to become scholars! Not saying that isn't a good thing to do, but it takes great knowledge to know what they are talking about and we could go on picking out individual verses that seem to point one way or another forever. (I do believe that the verse you are referencing in Isaiah is pointing to people currently under control of Islam in Sela. The question is why are they rejoicing?)
Then there is this much more interesting list of Muslim territories in Ezekiel:
I think its best to focus on the only thing that matters:
The essential point of Christianity is Jesus' death and resurrection is the key to Heaven. Muhammad denied this explicitly.
This is serious. It means that trusting Muhammad is turning your back on what Jesus tells us is the only way to eternal life.
All the rest is an interesting exercise. Since Muhammad denied this sine qua non of Christianity, everything else he said is moot.
The fate of nearly two billion people hangs in this balance.
I always address ur question but u run from the TRUETH and change the subject how do you answer this from the bible.
ISAIAH 29:12-14 King James Version.12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
You your self testified time ago that prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H was illiterate? Was or are going to take that out of context to
Can you also help to explain what? did Jesus. P.B.U.H meant by when he said
"But in fact, it is best for you that I go away, because if I don't, the Advocate won't come. If I do go away, then I will send him to you." who is the advocate He is going to send? John 16:7
As explained in the above answer - the Advocate is the Holy Spirit which will "be with you forever and will be in you." This Holy Spirit is Jesus' Spirit which is why He said "I will come to you." in that same paragraph. This is another example of the tight relationship between One God interacting with us as three Persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). It is that connection between Jesus and the Holy Spirit that somehow makes it necessary for Jesus to go away before he can send His spirit. There would be no reason at all why Jesus would have to go away to send Muhammad. This is a Spirit thing.
This is everywhere throughout the Bible, which is why you can't take just one verse and try to make it refer to Muhammad who cannot be "in us and with us forever".
Finally. Muhammad claimed to be sent from God. You are claiming this verse says he was sent from Jesus. Are you now agreeing that Jesus is God?
For ur opinion all messengers of God are the spirit of trueth' and I will send him. Understand it in it's littoral meaning And no Jesus is not second he is 4 after IBRAHIM and MOSES. P.B.U. Them.
Are you even hearing ur self he was already there so why the need for him to go away for advocate and the helper to come? You don't make no sense my friend sorry to say it.
I merely report what Jesus said. He did not explain why it was better for them if He went away so that they could receive His Spirit internally rather than depending on Jesus externally. We can only assume that we are better off that way.
I understand that the true prophets were all filled with God's Holy Spirit.
Jesus made that blessing available to all those who believed in His name.
So it is no longer necessary for their to be more prophets.
The book of Hebrews makes it clear that Jesus is higher than all the angels and therefore far higher than Abraham or Moses who both pointed forward to Jesus as the ultimate fulfillment of God's promises.
Jesus said, "All authority in Heaven and on Earth has been given to me." This doesn't sound like Our Lord is going to accept demotion to a mere #4 prophet.
His spirit was already there? so the word advocate can never be him. But don't take my words after all Muslims are just liers.
here is real meaning of advocate. In English dictionary "verb (used without object), advocated, advocating.
2.
to act as an advocate:
a father who advocates for his disabled child.
noun
3.
a person who speaks or writes in support or defense of a person, cause, etc. (usually followed by of):
an advocate of peace.
4.
a person who pleads for or in behalf of another; intercessor."
also you have not yet answered my question regarding. IASIAH 29:12-14 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
Like I said both Christians and non christians know the only prophet! Or claiming to be a prophet who is not learned is Prophet "Muhammad" P.B.U.H"
Read the whole chapter of Isaiah 29 so you can see your verse 29:12 in full context.
Even a small number of verses surrounding it makes it clear. This is a prophesy of the same thing I was telling you about from Ezekiel. A time when Jacob/Israel will be surrounded by its enemies on all sides and those enemies will be defeated. (It's amazing that your teachers would call attention to this.)
The verse you like is talking about the prophecy being sealed so no one can understand it until the time comes. (A few verses later it talks about the time when it will be unsealed.)
The reference to those who can't read is part of that larger reference to those who can't see or hear or understand. This is another place where your teachers stretch to find anything that might match their teachings, but when you look at the full text it is clear that there is nothing there at all to support them.