DVS unstack thx for the information

I really feel screwed over on this, just a few months back I put 100$+ in DVS and now it's rugged and worth ~10$. If feels impossible to find projects that can be trusted in crypto :(

Thank you for the update. !LOLZ

I hear ya... !LOLZ I invite you to checkout #PEPT
I had picked DHEDGE to help with a growth strategy and now I am cutting losses. All about risk versus reward, building trust and implementing a recover plan.

Wonder what the offer price will be.

That feels not good 😢
!LOLZ

Yeah... you and me both :-(

!BBH
!PIZZA
!WINE

FWIW: The "unstable nodes" weren't the reason for the unstakes... the 0 communication about any potential problems caused the unstakes (in my case anyway). When the system(s) stopped running, I hung around for some time, hoping that there would be ANY sort of communication... but alas.

Perhaps, it was like this by design. Since late Sept., early Oct. it was very obvious, undelegated and sold everything then. For me, it was obvious, it's a scam. When maddogtime, watchlist account network manipulated the daily DVS drop after staking, it got totally screwed and nothing happened to stop them, ban them, make a 'fork' based on earlier balances.

And other big delegators considered it as 'market capitalization'... :) not manipulation. So it's very suspicious. There is a real chance, the hole thing was a collusion by some of the big delegators. They all stopped delegation months ago, asap got huge DVS, and they kept selling it to the small guys for months... the greed factor...

Perfect example, why Hive will fall, but definitely won't be a winner!

Why would I design it to fail? I made nothing off of that happening, and lost 90% of my income from the project.... Comments like these are why I'm retiring from HIVE.

Anyways, no one is happy when a project fails.

60% of the time one of my programs (or bots) requests information from a node, the node returns an error when it used to just receive information and run 99.9% of the time. A project can't run only 40% of the time it's supposed to.

from average user point of view, it pretty much looks like this. The delegation rew. manipulation happened 1-2 months after start. You did NOTHING against that, so you were completely fine, most of people will lose very much on it - except the manipulator(s) and few other big delegator.

and top of this, it was running further, while they can sell their crap DVS, and of course, they undelegated couple of weeks after this wonderful event...

so yes, it pretty much looks like a SCAM!

and projects like this why I'm retiring from Hive...

Actually I adjusted the code making that manipulation impossible again, that's the exact opposite of nothing.

I work a blue collar job 60+ hours a week, I am responsible for 8 children, I have too much on my plate to argue with an unknown human... Regardless of how you FEEL, the facts are as I stated them

well, I know that, but after the exploit was done, it was like kiss to a dead guy...

anyway, not a big loss, and actually, it made me dig a bit deeper in Hive, and partly this made me recognize the ugly truth.

I'm very sad to hear that; it was one of the few Hive-Engine projects I had a bit of faith in as something that could potentially keep going in the long run.

I'm pretty non-technical and had hoped the issue was related to the Hive-wide database issue following the hack... but this sounds like something different, and well outside my wheelhouse.

Thanks for the update, anyway.

=^..^=

There are a few good projects on HIVE.

Just my 2 cents but I dont think this was a rug or set up to fail. HIVE is simply not big enough to make a rugpull worth well. haha.

Sorry to hear about you losing some money all the same.

No one wants to take over ARCHON?

I work too much to keep up with it's needs now, by the time I get home I'm half asleep, and my one day off a week goes to my kids. This is the real issue, everything else could have been coded around if I had the time and energy.

U could at least support with the HP u have still the accounts holding ur now worthless token. U wait until it’s worthless after 2 months to update? Incredibly scummy behavior

But u upvote ur own commrnt ? Wow ur a creep

U still have some HP. At least give some value to those holding man. Not upvoting self comments instead. Cringe.. I saw this coming , but many believed ur random updates months ago stunt like all was gonna be fine. It was obvious this was over. At least set ur account to upvote those stuck with bag. Lame man

This says. It all…

Not many left though, don't you quit on us! ;-)

Hi there,

re:

DVS and DHEDGE:
Each week an offer will be made on remaining DHEDGE and DVS in the H-E market, those who want to wait can, those who wanna take the offer can. Only so many offers will be made until a final offer is made and users will have the one month timeout to take that offer.

When and where will these announcements be made? How much are we looking at when the offer(s) is/are made? (i.e. no necessarily the amount, but just a formula/indication would help).

Why are you upvoting your own comments? You still have HP, some of us have lost a lot, you may have too but with the HP you still have you should be upvoting us, the holders.

It was upvoted solely to increase visibility? What is the standard sorting method for most front ends? I think it's still set to reward by default right? And since it's set to reward by default, wouldn't an upvote be required to place it at the top? Obviously I want a community member to to become the owner of the ARCHON tribe......

to increase visibility? I'm trying to give away a tribe, no one commented about the tribe... Default sorting method on front ends is reward....

Honestly, they likely won't be announced, I sucked at announcements from the beginning and I highly doubt I'll suddenly get good at it in the ending....

Not much for the first offer, those who are full of fear will take it, it will reduce the supply, and allow for a better 2nd offer...

As for an exact formula, I've crunched numbers and still havent come up with something fair yet.

I am so sad, Task. I know how much work you put into building this project. I hope Archon can continue.

It says the default sorting method is reward and the owner wants to GIVE AWAY the tribe, one of the most used tribes on HIVE... That's what is says???? I think that's what it says....

I'm hoping you or someone in your orbit can take over ARCHON TBH, after it gets some of the H-E products to insure reliable service... I don't want archon to end with me leaving.... I don't want anything for it, I just want it to go somewhere "good".

My bots are no longer functioning as intended, and I don't have the time or energy to update them. I've tried and just can't with my current work schedule.

Some of the ARCHONM will be bought back and burned, those who are ok with switching to H-E mining can keep theirs (or buy).

ARCHON will get that governance system H-E offers to allow for proposals to get funding... All will be kept around the same output for ARCHON per day...

There's more, I just can't think of it off the top of my head... But ARCHON was set up too good to just flop on my exit..... Even without a transfer of ownership, it would continue, however it would benefit even more with a proper takeover.

Thanks for being open there. I would offer to step in on Archon, but I lack coding skills so I'm not the man. Any thoughts @melinda010100 ?

Sorry, but I'd require the new leader to know the difference between trying to take a single dollar from the reward pool, and trying to move a comment up in placement within their post.... Coding skills are irrelevant as it can be outsourced.

U really have no self awareness of how u look do u?

This did not fail because of the bots. glitches etc. It failed because over the years members have begged for communication. You refused. This is on you. You acknowledged this more than once.There had been plenty of people willing to help. Still need someone to take over archon?

I think we can put together an Archon team with some of the old Lotto guys! @pixelfan has some tech skills and with some help and advice from you would be willing. @seckorama is great with PR. And I can put my heart into helping wherever needed.

Can we all connect in a Discord DM chat?

Im working on it! I love the project and have been involved from the start! You would be a great team member if we can pull this together.

I am very willing, lets get in touch to negotiate details!

My case is that I am the largest holder.

😘

It does look bad but we all know that top-rewarded comments go to the top. I'd say in the grand scheme of things, a $1 upvote is a drip in the ocean.

@melinda010100 looks to be motivated to do something toward saving the tribe so all might not be lost. The best communities within crypto have no leader and the community runs this, this could be a blessing long term for token holders.

You make very good points 👍
Cheers my friend

That would be a perfect plan, Eco! You know you can count on us to support Archon!

He’s at least honest unlike the former centralized controller

He’s not a honest broker. Be careful that’s all

Talk about a reply. Man this guys jerk

!DHEDGE. Oh nevermind got rug pulled

Lol
13$ worth of tokens now 0.098:(

Really discouraging for someone who just started this token stuff:(

Hi, I may be interested in taking over ARCHON, and DHEDGE too. I'm the owner of @lolztoken, and have built all my own scripts to run the scripts for voting, paying dividends, and LOLZ farming.

I have struggled with the node issues as well, and have recently built my own node tester/picker to ensure the node I'm using is working well before the script runs.

Let me know what you think. You can DM me on Discord from the LOLZ Fun House - https://discord.gg/hWXqfXfa

I would guess he did that so it would be on top, but maybe not.

Gimmie a list of H-E products you want on it (if any) before the transfer of ownership happens and let me know what account you want ownership transferred to.

Most of the code needs an update... it's pretty useless as is.

Exactly

I will work on that this weekend, allow me 48 hours!

I just wanted to say, I also know its a thankless job, so thank you for doing your best, having ideas, wanting to do something interesting.

I happen to think ARCHON is one of the best set up tribes on a technical level, and you did that!

Also good that you spend time with the family, they need you too! I hope you will consider, after some time off of course, to remain a member of the ARCHON tribe, you are welcome always, maybe you can get one or more kids to be a Shadow Hunter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDxgSvJINlU

At least ya got decent taste in music 🤣

Okay, I did some digging.

Of course, with anything here, I am negotiable. I am fully aware of the 'real value' behind this transfer. I have not been able to get sting chat to work on my brave browser unfortunately, but I am willing to release an email address that you could write too if you want to take this private.

First, I would like any and all code, working or not working that you have. I believe we can work with even the not working stuff, and be much further ahead than starting from scratch.

I am interested in any and all accounts that you are willing to give up, including but perhaps not limited to:

archonapp
archon-mining
archon-gov
archonbank
archon-drips
archon.pay
upfundme (related accounts?)

Again, not to beat a horse, but I can fully understand the need to negotiate here and I am quite flexible.

On the wallets, I am willing to work with any and all tokens that come with them, especially those with some 'value', including HIVE, HBD, HP, HIVE SBI, Ragnorak and SPK drops, and HIVE-ENGINE tokens. This is including but not limited to:

BEE, WAIV, ARCHON, ARCHONM, LEO, POB, ALIVE, BEER, THX, PIZZA, NEOXAG, CENT, PAL, NEWBEE, BRK, WIT, THGAMING, LOLZ, SPS, UTOPIS, CCC, HUSTLER, BRO and DHEDGE* / DVS*

• Since you are buying back DHEDGE and DVS, it may make the most sense to just call those 'burned'. I am flexible and negotiable on all of these things, but this special case I am particularily aware of.

You can make the owner to be @ecoinstar and I can figure out what to do from there.

just found out, very sad. thank you guys for the help

Would you be able to take the ownership of DHEDGE too? If you want, I can help you with putting it back to work. It's a great project.

I can put at least 10K HIVE as delegation for starters.

@taskmanager, is it possible to take over DHEDGE?

Hi. Is it possible to take over DHEDGE?

We can bring back DHEDGE easily. What actually is missing here?

I must decline, not because I don't like DHEDGE or think its a great project. It is however, completely different, wasn't offered, and I have less stake in it.

It will be a lot of work to take over either of these projects, and I would much rather focus on the one I have some good ideas about. I hope you understand 🙏

This is strictly for delegations correct? I do not have any delegations. Will the tokens continue or are the project being shutdown completely?

Edit:
I just read all the comments. It is sad that this has happened but I agree with those who feel like they have lost out. I was really digging the dhedge project and the fact it was paying out. I bought into it and feel I am among those whose investment is now not worth what was put into it. I will no longer be buying into anything. If I can't earn it I don't need it. I have sold holdings I thought were no longer benefiting me.

Thank you for your witness vote!
Have a !BEER on me!
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Did you ever get an answer? With 8 kids and a 60+ hour a week job, it might take a while to hear back.

Im not selling my dhedge or DVS - seems dumb for the price - let's see what else happens.

I'm liking the LOLZ project more now that you are investing in HBD. Let's see if you can get something going for DHedge and DVS. They were fun while they lasted.

any news of developments in potential takeovers??
!LOLZ

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hey, as a former large delegator I can only say that I tried to maximize the APR and didn't have any alterior motives... I am quite confident that we would still have DVS if the code wouldn't have had a flaw. Seems like there are no second chances in crypto

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@taskmanager Hope all is well and that progress is being made toward an Archon transfer. Let us know if there is anything we could be doing to help! ❤️

Ownership of ARCHON and ARCHONM has already been transferred. @archon-gov will need a new custodian to setup an income with it and use that income for tribe expenses. The likely choice is @ecoinstant, but there should be an opportunity made for anyone to state their case...

Would you mind changin the ownership of the archon:swap.hive pool from upfundme to ecoinstar as well? This can be done is tribaldex interface.

Also, can you explain a little more about what is a custodian? We are going to have an open forum to discuss some of these things, but I don't quite understand it myself yet.

@archon-gov was to be controlled by stake but that wasn't exactly secure... Maybe with the new smart contracts coming it will actually become what it was supposed to be at some point. But until then, the custodian uses the account to benefit the tribe.

The protocol in place for @archon-gov if I were to exit was either find a new custodian, or power down everything and distribute based on archon governance power.

@taskmanager. Thank you!
We can use @[email protected] to begin off chain communication.

Makes sense, and I am happy to be a custodian 'in the mean time' while we get the community together to figure it out.

I have to ask, and as I mentioned before I understand everything is negotiable, what are the thoughts about the @archon-mining account. As I see it, those funds would be ideal to re-establish the mining protocol.

Also, I have an email that I can share publically, [email protected] , from here we can begin communicating, if there is any code (or keys) you are willing to share, I understand it needs work, but a head start is valuable for us.

I'd love to get an email from you to discuss any amount of these things privately!

I notice that archon-mining is powering down. What should be our expectation of funds that we will have to work with? For reference, the HP on archon-mining was and still is greater than the market cap of the ARCHON tribe.

I am so excited that with all of us working together we will be able to continue Archon! This is such a brilliant project and I'm happy that you are trusting us to continue all of your efforts! ♥️

There also using the DHEDGE account to upvote people with half the DHEDGE I have but they skip me. Dude is not serious person

You stick us with the bag but stop upvoting us while u still we the DHEDGE account to upvote ur friends. Nice man

yo conoci el proyecto y me gusto por lo que inverti en el, parece que ya no seguira

I don’t blame anyone thinking it was. He didn’t update or respond for like 2 months. Sorry but that’s on him.

Tribe tokens are centralized projects. Please research them! They are not independent blockchains. They are total controlled by creator and creator has power to do anything basically. This is not a flaw in Hive. It’s a centralized separate thing run on the Hive chain.

Yup! No communication at all for like 2 months. You are spot on!

sorry for the not related question.

@taskmanager do you hold @sports-gov keys?

The community owner just left the community, and we cannot do anything to keep it running and improve it.

Hi I received some downvotes from you please review what you are downvoting

I only post my own original content

Feel free to message me on Instagram @kgakakillerg

I follow a couple downvote trails... So I didn't downvote you, the trail did...

I don't really wanna edit my trail settings. Don't know who you angered, but they are angry.

I hope you know what you are supporting

https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314

There's a big investigation on going

So I'll ask you again please remove the downvotes

You are supporting racist people and cyber bullying

I'm not sure if race has anything to do with it or not, a bot downvoted you from my account and it didn't care about your race... Race and racism are a social construct anyways, and I try not to participate.

From what I can understand, there's money to be made in downvoting.

It is a racist person who is pushing the button he's a hillbilly
There is money made from downvoting

Basically they downvote me and others and that money goes to other people they

It's a lot bigger than you think there's a live investigation on going https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314

🙏🏾

Everything is documented if you would like to speak to me in private I could show you so much

There's a big investigation on going

Keep laughing blocktrades is in trouble if this doesn't stop 🛑

I hope you understand what you are doing 🙏🏾

Please leave me alone what you are doing is classed as cyber bullying and it also feels like a racist attack 🙏🏾

If nothing changes Blocktrades is In trouble and theycallmedan and many others who are showing there face's

Please understand if Hive goes down it won't affect me

It's funny that I'm being downvoted by another person who farms Hive like you do 🙏🏾

https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314

https://hive.blog/hivedev/@makerhacks/please-peakd-allow-me-to-completely-block-spammers-would-you-ever-vote-for-this

https://hive.blog/hive-167547/@dlmmqb/re-kgakakillerg-t34wy6

https://hive.blog/hive-170475/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t32sw1

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-kgakakillerg-t30ziu

Thank you please spread the word so others are not involved in this case 🙏🏾

I hope you enjoy your day whatever you are doing 🙏🏾

Hi I just wanted to let you know that you are still talking part in downvoting my original content please remove yourself from the downvoting trail as you are actively taking part in a racist attack and cyber bullying

Keep exposing yourself Blocktrades https://hive.blog/hive-150329/@kgakakillerg/t3a8fu you don't scare me old man nor does @steevc

I pray you get the help you need blocktrades https://hive.blog/ama/@themarkymark/re-gungunkrishu-t36lot

I already told you I do not wish to change my settings, and I don't participate in the social construct of race.

If you're going to convince me to take a half hour or so out of my life, find the necessary keys, and adjust my trail, you're going to have to do better than saying he's a hillbilly...

You're also going to have to do better than showing me that downvoting is bad... I fought against downvoting before hive existed and it was just STEEM (from a different account). I even did a weekly report on top downvoters and trends. It drives away new users, and stunts growth.

It took years for me to add a downvote trail, I'm not going to undo that decision because you feel like it's racist. I can assure you, the bot I use cares not at all about your race.

Try and make it about race to me one more time and I will take it as a personal attack, but feel free to convince me in some way that isn't already mentioned above.

I don't expect anyone to be scared of me. You seem to be making more enemies, but it has nothing to do with me. I have no time for that sort of drama.

If you join me on Instagram I can show you a lot more

If you think it's ok fair enough https://hive.blog/hive-108278/@kgakakillerg/t3a8en

Just remember I did ask

I hope you enjoy your day 🙏🏾

I'm just letting you know everything is documented

Two more things have a good look at this https://hive.blog/hive-193084/@bpcvoter1/t37exu

And is this ok https://hive.blog/hive-119845/@kgakakillerg/t38tr2

Getting downvoted on a normal comment 🤔

🙏🏾

Please just tell your friends to leave me alone

I'm not scared of you people please just understand that

https://hive.blog/hive-150329/@kgakakillerg/t3a8fu

Tell your friends to back off and stop 🛑

Is this ok https://hive.blog/hive-119845/@kgakakillerg/t38tr2

What you gave up already? I was looking forward to an argument against that actually gave me a reason to undo the trail besides skin tone. I hate downvotes, they are the bane of the system.

I don't do instagram.

Please, give me a valid argument. I kinda wanna undo the trail now anyways but my autism requires something from you... A sentence or two that follows a logic path that says it should be undone

I read both posts, the problem runs deeper than that. I was here before steem launched, I remember when it was announced on bitcointalk. I was working with bitshares, and followed it's coder over to their new project...

I was one of the ones who set up a server only to be unable to mine any steem because the miner that was put out didn't work.

A small circle of people had a miner that did function, and was able to mine up most of the beginning for themselves.

Then there was a block on creating accounts, and I was unable to create an account to get in on the beginning.

Then they added downvotes to combat some of the crazy payouts, and some stuff was getting way overpaid...

And it took less than a day for people to use those downvotes for personal gain.

All of these problems, and more, allowed a select group of accounts to be able to build up a God level of power on the chain.

Then Dan left to build EOS.

Steemit and their large share was sold to Justin

That group was able to solidify their power through a fork and convince the entire community to jump over to HIVE.

The entire time, new users are discouraged by the same few people getting trending for next to no effort, just because they know the right people.

The price of hive is kept low because the same people farm the rewards for themselves, and push out new users with their stupid attitudes...

Honestly, I doubt race has anything to do with it. Odds are very good that you angered a money hungry "God" level user... And they added you to the shit list.

You know what's happening 🙏🏾

All I'm going to say is you know exactly what is happening if you wish to speak to me in private send me a message on Instagram @kgakakillerg

I know exactly what happened already

Thank you sharing this 🙏🏾

Are you ok downvoting this https://hive.blog/hive-135178/@kgakakillerg/t3hmgu

I'm no longer following OCDB

🙏🏾 https://hive.blog/hive-124838/@kgakakillerg/t3c21x

I know I'm gonna regret getting involved, but I do want to chuck my two penneth in.

Firstly, anyone who plays the race card loses credibility if you ask me or at the very least damages the validity of what they are trying to say. This is an age-old technique of scaring people into not saying what they feel or even joining in the conversation. It's a way of controlling the dialogue.

I waded through the post, which seemed to be mostly filled with screenshots of, umm? Supporters? Well, people who are saying positive things about the account at any rate. I'm still confused about what relevant evidence that is.

In my opinion:- HIve is a quasi Pyramid scheme
Now hear me out for a minute, I've seen lots of posts over the years, including some of these comments, that effectively highlight the foundations of any good Pyramid scheme. You have a few people at the top (Whales?) who seem to have all the money, all the voting power, both up and down. And possibly, all the support. For those who don't know how a pyramid scheme works, it's pretty simple. You start with a couple of friends and start running around saying:

"Phwoar! Look how much I earn doing very little. [In this example] I write a couple of posts and check out how much I earn! You can join too. Obviously, you'll need to build your account up."

That's why there are levels. Krill (I made that one up, by the way, but it certainly feels like a lot of us are bottom feeders.)
Minnows, Dolphins, until you reach the zenith of the pyramid, whales. Of course, how this all works is the krill and the Minnow flog their guts out trying to earn a few Hive or waiting for the Mythical Whale vote that drops $1000HBD on them, but of course, that never happens, it's the carrot that keeps you turning the wheel to mine the Hive for the benefit of those higher up the food chain. Don't believe me? Think about it. Don't bigger accounts earn more than smaller accounts? And I'm not just talking about 'suck up' votes here either.

I, too, was originally on STEEM. I was under the impression it embodied the values I believe in, "Freedom" and "Open Source". It didn't take me long to work out that STEEM and Hive are others' idea of Freedom. I have a personal saying:

"The moment someone says: We need a Moderator. You should tell yourself: There goes my Freedom!"

Now I'm not stupid. I know there are dodgy people on the planet, I've seen it all with Steemit and Hive. Multiple accounts self-voting, cyndicates promoting each other and crooked competitions. How you fight that is difficult when you're playing a game of Whack-A-Mole, given there's nothing stopping users from owning hundreds of accounts. Obviously, downvoting is one way to stop folk from getting their grubby hands on ill-got gains. The problem with that is distinguishing between being punished and telling a creator their post was a steaming pile of gazelle pooh. I have to say, In my opinion I'm not convinced that Hive is as welcoming as those doing really well would have you believe. I've seen people vilified for daring to post in a community about a subject not in their T&Cs, and users downvoted and blacklisted for eternity for not giving accreditation for a single image. The age of Tribalism is alive and well on Hive.

I have no idea what the author did wrong. If he continually produces content contrary to the 'Rules' accepted by the community, then there's no argument from me. What I will say for those who don't know is that there are two lists that auto-downvote. If you get on either of those lists, you're screwed because they will nuke your account the second your post hits the newstands.

If you feel like that, why are you still on here?
I post now and again. I post for me, not for you. It's a concept some folk find hard to understand. I've done posts that have taken me eight (8) or more hours to produce. Written and rewritten, checked the spelling and the grammar. All that was missing was one of those green editor shades, and those posts never got into double figures, and they were good posts IMO. So I've become disenchanted with Hive. I'll stay a member, and I actively delegate to a couple of projects, especially @ecency, but I see Hive for what it is. An exclusive club where you can only buy into the higher levels because you'll never earn your way to the top. Those days are gone; you needed to be in at the beginning.

#RantOver