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Now why would kafkanarchy do this?
Great news! Today @adamkokesh came back with a fantastic interview! Woo hoo!
But then the trolls showed up at the gates, hungry for attention.
Kafkanarchy84 started to accuse adamkokesh of being a part of a conspiracy against him here. Lemme show show you what he means in this screenshot:
The person on the right is the hacker that Kafkanarchy84 stays in contact with. This hacker that has tried they're damndest to twist the blood out of the stone with drama on this issue clearly says that kokesh has nothing to do with any of it.
for full context, go here: https://steemit.com/anarchy/@craniumgames/the-deception-of-kafkanarchy84
So with clear screenshot evidence proving that adam had nothing to do with any of this drama, why is kafkanarchy84 screaming at adamkokesh?
trolling and attention.
When I confronted Kafkanarchy84 on this here and here, Kafkanarchy84 cussed me out and (as usual) censored the factual truth coming at him, but in no way could respond to the allegation that he is purposefully lying.
Ladies and Gentlemen, it's time to stop feeding the trolls. In the above article by craniumgames it is PERFECTLY CLEAR that no one did anything to kafkanarchy84. He knows it, we know it. We have proof as seen in the article.
Let's stop pumping this troll full of attention and focus on making a difference in our world.
-@iamthenerd
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Odd, I thought you said craniumgames was a family friend...
Calling all Bernies... Come in, @berniesanders... Thoughts?
https://youtu.be/tt_Mfp8I18c
lolol
...metastalking
She is :) we wrote both of these together.
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Yes @berniesanders, do you realize you're being played?
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Ha ha ha ha... As if!
Allseeingewe, either you are unable to read basic facts, or you are Kafka stooge. Either way, I don't think you should laugh about it. It's embarrassing.
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Idiot! Lulz
Cool story
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Thanks for the follow, btw!
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Least i could do.
Anarchists and sheep don't generally get along, but I like you :) you're funny
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The infosec was saying that my kid has nothing to do with Kokesh and shouldn’t be dragged in, you sick fuck.
Nooooooo. Not at all. Your hacker buddy tried to tempt Ben into using your kid and ben shut her up.
You using your kid like this is what's sick. It's disgusting of you.
Anyone can read it for themselves.
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I encourage everyone reading this to read the article by craniumgames in my post. The truth is clear and simple.
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What’s clear and simple is you’ve had to resort to vote bots to upvote this filth.
Of course! Otherwise you'd censor me! I'm using my "market preference".
But let's go back to your lying. Try rereading that screenshot and tell me more about how your hacker friend was trying to protect your kid.
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Anyone’s free to ask the source directly and publicly (no DM required) on Twitter, about all the context. And shit, the context has been presented. Time and time again.
If you want to talk about my child, we can arrange to meet face to face when I am back in the states next.
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Lol! So scary!
But no, I don't want to talk about your child... YOU DO. You are the one constantly bringing up your kid. Not me
stop changing the subject. Explain to me and everyone else how your hacker friend was trying to protect your child as YOU put it. Go on. I want to see you try to work your way out of screenshot evidence.
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In fact, scratch that! Let's do it your way. I want to talk to your hacker. Bring her on here.
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Actually, you are being addressed now, it looks like.
https://twitter.com/gariondocument1/status/1064015087059509249?s=21
Question away.
They are creating a Steemit account now as well.
My only question is, why hasn't the Kokesh campaign addressed the allegation directly. We see evidence from a third party. The evidence does show an alternativepoint of view. But this is all hearsay.
Why have we not heard this point from Ben or the Kokesh camp?
Well... The campaign put out an official press release on steemit pubicly declaring they would not and did not have anything to do with it. But your boy Kafka rushed around and had it censored.
So ask kafka
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This is the official campaign response from the campaign press secretary.
https://steemit.com/politics/@marcus.pulis/statement-from-the-adam-kokesk-american-referendum-project
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This is an outright lie. The "statement" says absolutely nothing in regards to the kafka, to ben, or even to doxxing in general. All it does is mention that they believe in the nap and since both you and Marcus support a post that says and I quote "Doxxing is not a violation of the NAP" and "Hacking is not a violation of the non-aggression principle" that all can be found in the video here.
https://steemit.com/libertarian/@krishool/character-assassination-of-adam-kokesh
Talking about the NAP falls flat doesn't it?
I even commented on the statement asking about what this has to do with Ben and I got down-voted (what you consider to be censorship) by Marcus .
I don't even like Kafka if I'm being honest ( but I don't want to cause him any harm) and I want to hear the other side, but this is ridiculous.
And as you can see in the comments; I asked a simple question for clarification and got down-voted (what you consider to be censorship) by Marcus.
It’s funny that no one buys the inanity save those on the campaign team. Michael (@iamthenerd) can’t even answer your question, @dfree. He’s also being directly addressed by the infosec source on Twitter, but after asking to talk to them, refuses to even publicly ask there.
It’s a game to these losers. Project because they are miserable people looking to mess with people for entertainment.
Good luck on getting an answer, @dfree, but I wouldn’t waste my time.
kafka... just because you doxxed me doesn't make it ethical or moral to use my name on this platform.
also, i can speak for myself. thank you
First, I'm not Ben, Marcus, or whomever krishool is.
i am: iamthenerd.
I am a free man just as you are. I am as responsible for the actions and inactions of Ben or Marcus as you are (not at all).
The official campaign statement clearly indicates that we (the campaign) have nothing to do with any of this. It's really that simple. That being a given, how can we speak on the matter without making stuff up or guessing? All I know is what I've been told which is probably all the same things that you know.
If someone worked where you work now, i wouldn't question you if that person had or hadn't done something. it would be impossible for you to accurately speak on the subject.
is that account created yet?
Never said you were...
And as a "free man" you need to take some personal responsibility. You are choosing to defend Ben, you are choosing to defend the campaign "statement" and you chose to upvote Krishool argument that doxxing and hacking didn't violate the NAP. Is any of this info incorrect?
Where? where in Marcus statement does it say this? All it says is that you all follow the NAP and that's it. I even asked for clarification and that got down-voted.
Now tell me what am I suppose to think when I get down-voted by the O.P and I see him upvoting and wanting to resteem someone's post that gives an argument that doxxing and hacking doesn't violate the NAP. Tell me if it's so simple what should I take away from this?
Simple. You denounce the behavior. I'll even tell you what words to use like: "We have heard and seen posts regarding one of our old campaign staffer; Ben Farmer that has allegedly tried to Doxx and cause another steemit user harm. Let me just be clear and say we do NOT support these actions if they are true. We had no knowledge of Ben contacting any person like this and we denounce anyone attacking any peaceful individual no matter what verbal disagreements we may have had."
Instead of what you are doing which is; defending the screenshots, supporting posts that defend doxxing and hacking, and making these out of context arguments.
Now I won't lie; how you, Marcus and Adam reacted to this situation has definitely caused more harm to your campaign that you will likely never be able recover from. The only way now to salvage your campaign is for you and Marcus to apologize for acting unprofessional and then resign (unless if you are currently not working for the campaign). Adam would need give an apology(since he is the boss and it is his responsibility) and explain his side. I know this is long post but I just wanted to answer your question the best that I could.
I wouldn't defend my co worker unless I had clear evidence. What you are doing is giving out of context arguments and speculation passed off as fact, then complaining that you're not Ben when people disprove your argument.
And that's why the most I would do is denounce the alleged behavior and answer questions about the subject with a "I'm sorry but I don't know." I wouldn't be defending the alleged behavior and I wouldn't be making posts about the subject.
Michael, your name and your picture along with Adam Kokesh are posted publicly all over the internet, you dolt.
And yes, the infosec has created an account. Currently they are working, as I understand it. But instead of having me as a middle man: like a mature adult would, ask them when they’ll be active. You have an open connection on Twitter which you don’t use for whatever reason. I imagine they’ll be commenting here soon.
kafka, i choose to use a handle on this platform. i choose not to pronounce myself with my name. everyones name is on the internet somewhere. i do not give you consent to use my name here. you are seriously not a voluntaryist by any stretch.
i look forward to speaking with her here. she has a lot to explain. as do you.
Thank you.
your entire post is a reflection that you need to reread my last post.
Enlighten me, please.
holy shit this is so simple. let me try it this way:
i have as much to do with this as you do. so tell me, dfree... why did all of this happen (no guessing and no opinions; be intellectually honest).
go.
If by "all of this" you are referring to the attempting doxxing. My answer is- I'm sorry, but I don't know. I can guess but you don't want that.
My complaint is that your campaign's official statement doesn't condemn this alleged behavior adequately because the writer down-votes questions and supports a post that gives an argument that doxxing and hacking doesn't violate the N.A.P
incorrect. the campaigns official statement VERY clearly states that we do not stand for the breaking of the NAP. We also state that if anyone of us breaks the NAP, we will subject to termination within the campaign.
as for doxxing... what doxxing? you see, kafka gave out bens work information so that people would get him fired. that's doxxing. kafka associated my real name against my consent on this platform. that's doxxing. you seem to not mind that.
if you mean what was ben up to... i don't know. but he gave no indication that he was going to doxx anyone. aquire the services of someone that basically would act as a private investigator, maybe. but then releasing that information on any platform to do harm to kafka (which is what doxxing is)... show me a screen shot or any other evidence that was going to happen. it wasn't.
you're questioning me about doxxing when there is no indication that ben was going to doxx anyone... and yet you watch kafka doxx two people and you just shrug your shoulders.
i feel you're less than sincere.
I have seen that post and to me that was not a good response to the accusations that were laid out. These are serious accusations that demand a serious response to each and all of the specific accsations. That vague response gives me the perception of guilt, in my opinion. I understand the opinion that the author is putting out there, and is plausible, but this should have come directly from the accused, not from some third party analysis and therefore assumptions.
No, I don’t need your consent to use a name you’ve publicly and openly plastered all over the internet. This much is obvious. If that to you is some form of harassment, you may be better served to looking to your own behavior, and ask if perhaps there is a reason people are giving your actual public identity attention now.
As for me. My name is Graham Smith. And after what I’ve been going through, and what you’ve been accusing me of, nah, I don’t respect anything about you other than the fact that you have not physically violated me. You’re only making noise, and that sycophantic racket always happens when an idolized figure is criticized, so it is to be expected.
Now, I’m the one doxxing you by exposing a cyberterror plot against myself and my family? That’s pretty funny.
“Mykl,” Wood, the “Director of Tech” for the Kokesh campaign, listed publicly on linkedin, and posting photos of himself at Adam’s events on this platform, here on Steemit accusing me of all kinds of horrible things, and engaging in non-stop victim blaming.
I do appreciate that your whole blog here as of late is dedicated to me now, though. An impressive string of posts for someone seeking decidedly to not “give attention” to me.
Cheers.
I told you, @dfree. Pointless to try and have a logical argument with individuals completely unconcerned with understanding.
And now my self-defensive asking of questions and actions to share already openly public info about Ben in the interest of getting answers are “doxxing,” and I am the bad guy, because, magically, we should just ignore the actual conversation that was presented in screenshot and video form. When in doubt, blame the victim of the crime attempted.
These guys are in direct contact with Farmer and Adam, and are waiting for me to totally lose my temper. Guarantee it. Not gonna happen. If they were a bit more capable and coherent, it might work. But as you can tell from the comments section here, they just keep tripping over themselves, and no one is buying it but them.
The infosec professional is also open and available for question on Twitter now, and will be here soon. Why he refuses to question them and address them directly is telling.
It’s still not enough for them, because they have no interest in understanding, but in conflation and muddying the waters.
And as I stated multiple times now; the writer of the official statement supported a post that gave an argument that doxxing and hacking doesn't violate the NAP so how I'm so supposed to believe it's sincerity?
Kafka is not asking me to vote for him and as I said before I don't like Kafka. Not to mention that since your campaign site doesn't have any privacy statement (that I can find, if you could point me to it that would be very helpful) your campaign could theoretically release any of your past supporters information.
Remember when I said I would denounce the alleged behavior if this was me. This is why.
The screenshots that are shown show at the very least show the hacker was trying to find where Kafka was located. Is there a good reason why Ben would need to know where Kafka lives? Since Ben initiated contact, never questions why he would need to know where kafka lives, responds with "your the best" when the hacker says he found a licence plate, texts "God damn I fucking hate that guy" and won't even take time defend himself.
What am I supposed to believe he was going to use this info for?
The hacker is giving an allegation that Ben was trying to doxx Kafka. So there's a witness. If Ben were to speak up then maybe it could be a he said/ she said type situation but that's not happening is it?
Tell me you said multiple times you don't know the full story. Why are you so set on defending someone who won't defend themselves? All I asked your campaign to do was give a better statement.
I've went out of my way to give you a way to salvage your campaign but instead you chose to argue with me and defend the screenshots when I wasn't even arguing about them.
Wow. Youre either trolling or incapable of understanding.
The campaign has nothing to do with all of this.
That's it.
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In the screenshots show Ben allegedlly giving a link that calls out Adam and says "we've got a troll and he's really fucking with our money" so he was ethier doing this for the campaign without anyone's knowledge in which case you should call out the behavior to stop any would be fan from doing this again or he was told to do this by another person in the campaign.
Sweetie, if you think I'm trolling good luck dealing with the actual trolls on campaign trail.
I have educated everyone on the potential dangers that people seeking these services can produce and that's been twisted into a perceived campaign to further victimize Graham and his family in horrible ways. An open network by no means is immune to malicious attacks: A researcher recently revealed that a top paid app is secretly transmitting user data to a server in China. That could include pictures of your children. That has nothing to do with politics or Kokesh. Do not twist my words. I hope the users here, are able to witness a phenomena where mass awareness of certain doxxing or hacking concepts cause over-diagnosis or misapplication of that information security by lay people (you) who do not fully understand the concept, or related concepts.
I was able to google the Director of Tech for Adam Kokesh and your LinkedIn came up immediately Michael . This presents the public name in question that you have alleged is an act of doxxing. It appears that those who pieced together this information relied exclusively on public information, especially information posted by you. The investigative technique is merely to look for clues in public information and make connections across multiple online platforms and personas. At least, I could not find any Non-Public Private Information (NPPI) released in your LinkedIn, Facebook or steemit.
Sometimes, you work for a campaign in order to appropriate its capabilities, or its people. Other times, you do it to liquidate, and flush a bunch of garbage down the toilet. I don't care who your family is, who you know, how much money you have, if you aren't a true professional, or are ethically questionable, I wouldn’t want you working for me. Go clean the sewer. The fact that Adam refuses to address or denounce Ben is a testament to his TRUE character and what his TRUE intentions are. I’m going to assume he’s financially motivated because that was the reason he wanted Graham Smith gone.
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are you supposed to be the infosec?
if so, i'd really like to know two things.
why did you threaten grahams child.
and why did ben refuse your offer?
I am the person Ben contacted. You’re being very presumptuous to assume my gender, unless you have proof I’m she or her, I would appreciate if you stick to FACTS. I already explained to you the context of that conversation. Since you appear to have a third grade reading comprehension, similar to Ben, I will explain it again, but dumbed down. Leaving a network open, poses a risk to Graham’s child because criminals don’t care. If Ben felt that I was a threat to Graham’s child, why would he continue to converse with me ? In fact, he was nice enough to send me a picture of his empty office in Roswell, New Mexico. If Ben is claiming that I threatened Graham’s child, why didn’t he immediately disengage with me ? At this point, you’re just trolling. I miss the days when the internet was a small group of smart people. Now it's just a bunch of dumb-asses trolling. It really has shattered my faith in democracy. When the internet was an elite bubble, it was so much nicer. Now we have a dictatorship of the simpleton proletariat, and I don't like it. I'm too far above the lowest common denominator of intelligence. Sorry, but I’m no longer going to play these reindeer games with you.
https://steemit.com/anarchy/@iamthenerd/kafkanarchy84-s-hacker-come-out
So here is what I don't get. If there was any action to be done to a child, it would have been done by you or someone you hired, as Ben never requested any such action in what is public. So how are you not the person being held responsible? There was no order from Ben to cause any harm to anyone, the only place that is ever listed is a list you sent to Kafka, a message in which Ben was not connected to.
So those screen caps were Ben?
And this individual has explained clearly what was taken out of context and twisted.
I was presented as some evil bad guy by Koke campaign/Farmer to individual who launches counter campaigns against malevolent parties.
Infosec warned Ben that sometimes children get dragged in to these wars and that this has nothing to do with the matter at hand (making him aware of the gravity of launching a cyber attack/discouraging the action insofar as it could drag children in). Ben says “just keep that to yourself.”
Again, are you saying the screens were Ben?