Community post
SHADOWBOT = SCAM
Nice Scam
Difference between payouts
@oricaless payouts

@jonbit payouts

Shadowbot Ranking
@oricaless(9.3) 5 places higher than @jonbit(8.5) in "shared" pool

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@oricaless current shadowbot rank

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further proof of scamming by @shadowbot devs within the shadowbot group the same as the supposed exploit used to take upwards of $10k SBD over 6 month period that they were informed and presented evedence on after a few weeks yet chose to ignore
You started a flag war with the lead developer for no reason. We adjusted your rank accordingly. If you want to call us a scam you can just leave all together. If you know we aren't a scam and want to work with us you can open support tickets for ALL your concerns and begin helping us identify any and all issues that can be fixed.
We do not owe you shadow rank you earn it.. And just as fast as you earn it we can take it away. IF you want to flag the core team that makes this service exist and think you get to keep your Shadow Rank you must be insane!
Looks like you earned over $5 on your posts thanks to @shadowbot! Your own picture above proves that! You just are mad you don't have more SP and started a flagging war over nothing! YOU EARNED VERY NICELY WITH US! Then you decided to wake up today and start flagging my posts!
You were stealing my money by means of votes on false advertising of a shared pool when in reality you control the votes and pay your team + accounts much higher while everyone else loses
shadowbot only gave 2.50
No you are building up with us, you only made a few posts in your lifetime with us. You decided you didn't get enough but you didn't talk to us nor give it a chance. You decided to begin a flagging war which is not fun for anyone.
So you earned 1.6 more thanks to our system and you call us a scam.. The longer you are with us and the more you power up and act like a good steemian the more you receive in return. How is that a scam? That is at worst a system that needs a little fine tuning and at best a good deterrent for people looking to jump in and scam us all out of our votes without ever providing anything to the rest of the pool.
i brought the issue up multiple times and had opened support tickets and had been waiting a week for a response losing money everyday already ive had 10k delegation for 2 weeks with 1 post paying minimum $2.5 a day in votes to Shadowbot and i had a high ranking = SCAM
You have 10k SP and get $2.50 per post? That is building up! IF you had kept with that or invested in actually owning the SP you would see within a few weeks how that would have built up your Shadow Rank and Pool Priority. Instead you wanted to flag me, call us a scam, and thus we adjusted your Shadow Rank accordingly. I'd be happy to remove my flags and restore you IF you first remove your flags and make a proper post about how things are going. We CAN work together but only if YOU want to!
We literally are 2 people running all this, we pay for the servers, we pay for the bandwidth, we write the code and do all the support. We are always looking for help. Flagging us is not helping anyone!
MY PAY TO SHADOWBOT IN VOTES = 17.5 PAYING TO SHADOWBOT
VOTES I GET FROM SHADOWBOT 6.4
I LOST $11 SBD A WEEK BY BEING IN SHADOWBOT WITH A HIGH RANKED ACCOUNT = SCAM
You contribute to the system which is to EVERYONE in our community not just us.. Over time you will see the rebalance if you stick with us. That is how we avoid abuse and do not charge. We start people off earning less than they give, as we calculate their average over 90 days we begin to adjust their ranks to calculate where they should be. This is why we always tell you to power up and keep it powered up. This greatly helps with your earnings. Calling us a scam when you admit you are earning and if you look over time earning more and more is not a fair statement. If you feel it is then you do not understand our system and should leave. NOT call us a scam, NOT flag my comments and posts.. You have only posted 5 times with us, you do not have enough data/history with us to determine accurately what you should be earning.
OVERTIME???!! IM THERE 9 MONTHS PAYING $100'S OF SBD'S WORTH IN VOTES NOT TAKING ANYTHING
https://shadowbot.us/shadowbot/casters.php
I was higher than shadowbot members yet all my votes go to them
You have 10k SP some have over 30k some over 100k what makes you the top dog?
I showed you im minus $11 in votes by being with shadowbot due to devs paying themselves all and boosting there own accounts up in priority
this is the opposite of earning = SCAM
Your pool priority is what matters with voting, and you can calculate exactly what your pool priority is/was by looking at the % up vote you get from the biggest people in the pool like @grandpawhale.
Devs? Go look at the votes you cast to ALL the members of @shadowbot! Have you even looked at WHO gets your votes? You think I get them all lol no I earn more because I have been there for 16 months and was the first member and contribute over 10k SP to everyone! Including yourself which you can verify on blockchain ;)
SERVICE IS A FRAUD THATS HOW I HAD POOL PRIORTY AND SP , DEVS SCAMMED EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE THERE
YES HOW MANY OF THE BOT SPAMMING ACCOUNTS DO DEVS HAVE
HOW MUCH VOTES ARE PUT TO DEVS NOW INSTEAD OF USERS WHO EARNED IT BY PAYING FOR MONTHS
22K VOTES GO TO JONBIT FROM SHADOWBOT THIS WEEK
40 TIMES MY EARNINGS FROM SHADOWBOT
And yet everyone but you understands how the system works and realize if you actually make posts more than 5 times a year you do build up and earn a lot. You just decided to join back in and start posting FUD about us! Please remove yourself from our system or remove your flags if you want to have your rank reinstated.
I keep over 12,000 SP in this account how much SP you think I have? I contribute a HUGE amount of REAL SP that I OWN to the pool that you can verify on blockchain YOUR account along with many many many others in our system benefit from! You are contributing to ALL members not just me and @shadowbot! We don't even take a payout for our daily stats post on @shadowbot!
POOL PRIORITY WAS 10.7 BEFORE RECENT CHANGE STILL HIGHER THAN JONBIT
SIMPLE MATH SHOWS IM AT A LOSE EVEN BEING IN SHADOWBOT 9 MONTHS AND HAVING $10K STEEM POWER
You don't make more than 5 posts a year! LOOK at your account:

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TRY making some posts if you want them UP VOTED by our system! You don't make any quality posts that get picked up by our system and then accuse us of being a fraud?
DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU OWN OR RENT, STEEM POWER HAS THE SAME VALUE AND I WAS GIVING VOTES WITHOUT TAKING BY POSTING FOR MONTHS
YOUR TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT SAYING I SHOULD POST MORE TO EARN EVEN WHEN VOTES DONT COME TO MY POSTS = IDIOTIC
MAKE POSTS! You made 3 since you joined with us!
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Comments do not count as posts to our system.
You made THREE (3) posts in the last 9 months... So how can you earn more when you don't make posts??
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I WOULD LOSE MONEY POSTING I TESTED YOU FLAGGED WITH @grandapawhale
You flagged me THEN created this post you downvoted me and thought I would just let that go? Remove your flags and I remove mine...
Why would @shadowbot let you get upvotes on a post that talks badly about the developers and supporters of the system...???
I HAD ACTIVE POSTS HIGHER THAN JONBIT WOULD HAVE GOT VOTES THE SAME AS HE DOES FOR ONE POST
2419 FROM SHADOWBOT
ALSO HE GETS 12 VOTES FROM EACH MEMBER A WEEK
https://shadowbot.us/shadowbot/faq.php
https://steemit.com/steem/@oricaless/10k-steem-delegation-activated
You had 3 active posts and 1 expired already so you rally had 2 and you decided to flag me...
YOU CHANGED MY RANK BEFORE THAT
PAST PAYMENT SECOND IS CONTEST BOTH GOT $1.6 FROM SHADOWBOT
I JUST changed it 1.5 hours ago so you can lie all you want but EVERYONE who is part of our platform knows who you are and that you just want to troll us. PLEASE exit our platform since you refuse to work with us, refuse to remove your flags, and believe we are nothing but a scam!
PLEASE exit our platform since you refuse to work with us, refuse to remove your flags, and believe we are nothing but a scam!
PLEASE exit our platform since you refuse to work with us, refuse to remove your flags, and believe we are nothing but a scam!
HOW ABOUT WE TALK ABOUT HOW YOU SCAMMED UPWARDS OF $10K FROM SHADOWBOT GROUP OVER 6 MONTHS CLAIMING THERE WAS A BUG
https://steemit.com/steemit/@isacoin/re-shadowbot-why-investing-in-your-steem-power-matters-especially-with-shadowbot-20180123t220555472z
https://steemit.com/steemit/@isacoin/re-shadowbot-re-lost108-re-shadowbot-re-lost108-re-shadowbot-analytics-page-removed-20180412t170323446z
PLEASE exit our platform since you refuse to work with us, refuse to remove your flags, and believe we are nothing but a scam! There are COUNTLESS others in our system that KNOW we aren't a scam and benefit greatly just like you did. You just want MORE for free thinking we are like a pay for up vote bot!
https://steemit.com/steemit/@isacoin/re-shadowbot-re-isacoin-re-shadowbot-re-lost108-re-shadowbot-re-lost108-re-shadowbot-analytics-page-removed-20180412t191135437z
I invested over $10,000 into SP of my own money what planet are you on?
YOU SCAMMED $10K FROM GROUP SAYING THERE WAS DELGATION BUG SAME REASON YOU SAY YOU ONLY PAY 50% TO USERS WITH DELGATION
SO YOU PAY $10K STEEM POWER INTO SERVICE WHERE ONLY DEVS GET PROFIT
@sadkitten
@grandpawhale = @bigdeej
@grandpawhale has over 100k SP I have over 12k SP and @shadowbot over 1k SP so that is a decent amount of the over all pool. We back our project with our money and time and effort. If you don't see that then leave! We have done nothing but try to be as fair as possible to all our members! We work together to earn more. Attacking us and our team is just another way to make things more difficult in this already difficult terrain. You proved with your own pics that you earn votes from our system. As your Pool Priority and Shadow Rank grow you would earn more. But you want to call us a SCAM and then let our system pick up that post to be put in the Shadow Post Pool for up voting.. NO! You will not earn steem making FALSE claims about us and our system from our system. Do you think we are stupid... You want to earn more up votes on a post that calls us a scam? Either remove your flags and retract your statements or LEAVE shadowbot! We are a community of Steemians who WORK TOGETHER! We are not the enemy!
all you do is lie
you claim is fair pool
devs get 6 times next users
EVERYBODY LOSES EXCEPT DEVS
scam
ROFL @grandpawhale doesn't make posts or comments EVER! That is why you can't down vote him ;) but good luck! And I am against self up voting unlike yourself that does it ;)
The DEV you bash supplies 1/4 of the ENTIRE pool's Steem Power ;) What makes that a scam? I could just make a pay for up vote bot that makes FAR FAR more or just up vote myself and earn more! Keep calling:
@sadkitten
@isacoin = @oricaless
@sadkitten
@isacoin = @oricaless
I DONT HAVE ARMY OF COPY PASTING BOTS = https://shadowbot.us/shadowbot/casters.php
IS WHY ALL THE FAKE EXCUSES OF BUGS IN SYSTEM WHEN MAJORITY CLEARLY LOST VOTES WHILE DEVS GOT MORE
The DEV you bash supplies 1/4 of the ENTIRE pool's Steem Power ;) What makes that a scam? I could just make a pay for up vote bot that makes FAR FAR more or just up vote myself and earn more! Keep calling:
@sadkitten
@isacoin = @oricaless
SO WHAT IF SUPPLIED 90% POOL ISNT EQUAL OR FAIR YOU DIRECT VOTES AT YOUR OWN ACCOUNTS AND PUT REST AT A LOSE
I give to the system more than I can get just self upvoting.. That is the point of shadowbot you just don't like that it is a fair balancing system apparently and want more than you can get just self up voting yourself.
AMMOUNT DEVS HAVE IS IRRELVANT POOL DISTRIBUTION IS UNFAIR DEVS PUT VOTES TO THEIR OWN ACCOUNTS
DEVS MANUALLY INCREASE POOL PRIOIRTY ON SHITP POSTINGS ACCOUNTS
So would you prefer if I pulled the over 100k SP from the pool and just earn while everyone else contributes real SP?
MORE LIES!!
$121.06 PENDING ON @bigdeej ACCOUNT MAJORITY FROM SHADOWBOT
1 ACCOUNT MORE THAN 6 TIMES YOUR VOTE CONTRIBUTION
REAL SP?
A VEST VOTED IS VEST VOTED
WHAT IS CLEAR IS $ AMOUNT SINCE YOU ARE SCAM NOW SCAMMING GRANDPAWHALE VOTES FROM GROUP
You don't understand how our system works. The amount you earn is based on the amount you contribute and the quality of content you create. You only made 3 posts in the last month... How can you earn if you never post?
Learn how our system works. We are not a pay for up vote bot. There is a trade off for that service. We operate free of charge and provide this community for us ALL to earn more together. This means screening users when they begin making posts. If you make more than 4 posts a year you might see yourself actually earn well.
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NO YOU CLAIM TO BE FAIR SYSTEM THAT EACH GETS ONE VOTE A DAY AND AFTER TIME CAN EARN
I WAS THERE 9 MONTHS RENTING THOUSANDS WORHT OF SP AND HAVE PROVEED WITH EARNINGS THAT YOU ARE A SCAM
You made 4 posts in the time you were with us.. HOW can you expect to earn when you only made 4 posts. We had almost 0 data on your posts. Then you call us a scam... So we quickly figured it out...
okay @oricaless I mean @isacoin ;) same person trying to call me a scammer! I disclose ALL my accounts affiliated to me!
We NEVER said everyone gets 1 vote per day! You mis understand the system. You earn over a 90 day period an average of what you provide. Those who provide more will see a boost those who provide less will see no boost or even a reduction. We are a balancing system over 90 days. You don't give it time to play and never make more than 1 post a week.. That is not very fair to call us a scam based on that when others like myself post every single day!
BLATANT LIE, IS STATED ON YOUR SITE
https://shadowbot.us/shadowbot/faq.php
FUNNY HOW NOW YOU SAY I WAS LOSING MONEY IN SHADOWBOT BECUASE IM NOT POSTING AND LAST YEAR WAS BECAUSE OF FAKE BUG
"Each Shadow Caster is limited to 1 up vote from any other Shadow Caster in any given 24 hour period."
LIMITED! That means the MAX! That does not state ENTITLED to 1 per day. That means you CAN NOT get MORE than 1 per day. That means you may get 0 or 1 there is no statement made that you will get 1 every day! Sorry you misunderstood that but it is very clear in our FAQ that the LIMIT or MAXIMUM is 1 per day.
HOW can you earn if you don't make posts??? Make posts and you will earn. And learn what our FAQ states before making assumptions. I made it very clear what we do and don't do!
YES I PUT ANOTHER ACCOUNT IN YOUR SCAM AND RENTED DELEAGTION FOR MONTHS WITHOUT POSTING TO GROW RANK AND SEE IF SYSTEM WAS HONEST
@oricaless ACCOUNT PROVES YOU SCAM ALL DIRECTING MOST TO DEVS WITH EVERYONE ELSE LOSING MONEY BY GIVING MORE VOTES THAN THEY TAKE
HOW CAN SOMEONE GET 12 VOTES FROM MEMBERS IN 7 DAYS
HOW can we determine your ranks if you don't make posts? That is how you earn in this system!!!! YOU make posts and we monitor them!
You need to make more regular good posts and watch your rank increase and you will earn more and more! You just want a pay for up vote bot then go somewhere else. We work hard to get where we are! You don't want to put the effort in then demand rank that isn't how we work...
JONBIT OVER 22K THOUSAND VOTES MOST FROM SHADWBOT
@jonbit has been with us since day 1 and helps do everything and posts an insane amount on here. He has earned his rank! You want that then reinvest into your SP and begin posting more than once per day!
SO YOU STEAL MONEY BECAUSE YOU THINK ARE MORE DESERVING THAN TO LEAVE THE SYTEM FAIR
ITS NOT A RANK ISSUE , MY ACCOUNT WITH DELEGATION WAS TOP 10 HIGHEST AND I GOT 7
#HELLO
HOW do I steal money?
Because you didn't exist as long as him, you didn't post as often as him, you didn't built up your account like he did.. You just want instant rewards. GO use PAY for PLAY bots.. We are a COMMUNITY not just a bot!
ADVERTISING FAIR POOLED VOTING COMMUNITY BUT REALLY IS PYRAIMD FUNNELING TO DEVS ONLY
YES MONEY GOES INTO ACCOUNTS BUT IS LESS THAN THEY PUT IN AS MY ACCOUNT PROVES
MY POOL PRIORITY WAS HIGHER
You never made posts and never were in our system and your fake other account only joined to spread FUD and lies about us!
No @isacoin was not in our system sorry you are the liar ;)
ALL YOU CAN DO IS LIE YOU PIECE OF SHIT SCAMMER
https://mysteemitfriends.online/contributors.php?author=isacoin
Show me ONE post or comment @grandpawhale has made! Sorry he earns SOO much from curation rewards that you can't understand it.. This is WHY the Shadowbot Community works!
So wait he gives you $5.20 for 3 posts and you are complaining why???
WOW HIGH SP HOLDERS WIN IN THE FIGHT FOR CURATION REGARDLESS OF TIME, CONGRATS MULTI SCAM
$5.2 FOR 14 POSTS
I WAS MINUS OVER $100!!!!!
THATS WHY
You aren't signed up to @shadowbot so you are a LIAR!
You aren't even a member of @Shadowbot you FUDster liar!
I WAS A MEMBER AND YOU COST ME $100S OF sbd WORTH IN SPENT COST GOD KNOWS HOW MUCH FROM RENTING STEEM POWER TO SUPPORT GROUP
BYE Felicia ;)
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LIAR
https://mysteemitfriends.online/contributors.php?author=isacoin
I don't see you in our system and I didn't remove you so you are the liar!
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VOTING HISTORY CLEARLY SHOWS I WAS MEMBER ONCE AND OF COURSE I LOST SHADOWBOT IS UNPROFITABLE FOR EVERYBODY EXCEPT FOR DEVS - DO THE MATH
OF COURSE I LEFT, WHO PAYS SCAMMERS = IDIOTS
BYE FECALIZER ;)
@sadkitten
vote farm alert
yes and 1 vote per casters in pool priority order would give me over 2k votes each post as per system rules
YES I PAID 100's of STEEM TO RENT DELEGATION AND PAY SHADOWBOT GROUP 100's SBD WORTH OF VOTES TO SPREAD FUD
posts were made paid out half the value my own voting power for being a top ranking member for 9 months
my ranking was based on the voting i did in the group having paid 100's of SBD worth of votes without posting is why my account was one of the top 10
paying 100's of sbd in votes for months to get paid less than 50% of contribution after
"against self up voting" yet you use grandpawhale to vote yourself and you steal votes from users who gave you control to pay your team, you are champion against selfvoting alright
They obviously haven't done the basic math to see their earnings if they believe it is a fair system
anytime you want to recruit over 100k SP to our pool let me know
we use anti abuse detection and metrics to fairly allocate votes. If you begin to make good posts on a regular basis you will see your rank increase.
We don't charge SBD for our service so what are you talking about?
you never make posts so how can you even quantify your earnings with us?
you have control on users voting power claiming to give fairly based on rank and use votes to owned accounts thereby paying yourself the money that comes out the end of a vote
my rank had me at top 10 of pool priority with 1.6 votes for my $2.5 vote a day (50% of voting power per day)
how much do you think i brought
i made a test post to see earnings that's when you replied
https://steemit.com/test/@oricaless/shadowbot-test
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STOPTo support your work, I also upvoted your post!
all on blockchain verifiable
You are calling myself and our system a scam! Just leave if you are unwilling to help!
https://steemit.com/contest/@oricaless/true-or-false-bitcoin-trivia-contest-1#@bigdeej/re-shadowbot-re-oricaless-true-or-false-bitcoin-trivia-contest-1-20180903t215951211z
oh $0.69 c
my vote 2.50 a day
yes analysis will show clearly where the money went and i have some history on your ranking to go with
yes when you steal votes
yes scammers scam
LOVE to see that so we can use YOUR data to prove we play fairly! That will be fun!
I'll be sure to have ALL your shadowbot votes reversed that are still valid so they can be used on other REAL steemians!
And Fudsters spread FUD!
yes you know accounts have earnings % of votes where they came from how much they gave out
what was the wank you said
all verifiable on the blockchain
Yes so go talk to ALL our members and see everyone BUT you is very happy with our service and APPRECIATES what we do!
your welcome for the 100's of steem worth of delegation and identifying major exploit where users were getting votes for free for months costing thousands
You are welcome for the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of steem we gave back to you as well =D
that's why those left recent
good one piece of shit
Still waiting for that "proof" of how we scammed you!
if your so impatient here is proof for right now until i have an approximation of how much you've ripped off
https://steemit.com/test/@oricaless/shadowbot-test
You downvoted me that had nothing to do with Shadowbot that was you attacking me personally and me responding! Don't downvote someone if you can't handle them downvoting you back ;)
made multiple complaints and request to support in the last week answered with lies about how the system needs 5 days to register for voting after i had already rented 10K STEEM POWER for 2 weeks
Your choice to decide how we proceed just realize when you attack our team and me personally that is outside Shadowbot
i am progressing by contacting everyone you had a chance to make a fair system but choose to steal peoples money by voting your own accounts excessively from other users allocation
We are and always have been and will always be a fair system! Bye felicia you can leave when ever you like!
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yes you know accounts have earnings % of votes where they came from how much they gave out
what was the wank you said
all verifiable on the blockchain
yes when you steal votes
yes analysis will show clearly where the money went and i have some history on your ranking to go with
oh $0.69 c
my vote 2.50 a day
i made a test post to see earnings that's when you replied
https://steempeak.com/test/@oricaless/shadowbot-test
how much do you think i brought
my rank had me at top 10 of pool priority with 1.6 votes for my $2.5 vote a day (50% of voting power per day)
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LIAR
https://mysteemitfriends.online/contributors.php?author=isacoin
i was a member and you cost me $100s of sbd worth in spent cost god knows how much from renting steem power to support group
$5.2 FOR 14 POSTS
I WAS MINUS OVER $100!!!!!
THATS WHY
WOW HIGH SP HOLDERS WIN IN THE FIGHT FOR CURATION REGARDLESS OF TIME, CONGRATS MULTI SCAM
MY POOL PRIORITY WAS HIGHER
advertising fair pooled voting community but really is pyraimd funneling to devs only
yes money goes into accounts but is less than they put in as my account proves
so you steal money because you think are more deserving than to leave the system fair
all you do is lie
you claim is fair pool
devs get 6 times next users
EVERYBODY LOSES EXCEPT DEVS
scam
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False statements being made. You get PLENTY of upvotes from @grandpawhale and @bigdeej you are a troll!
funny your own pics/posts and blockchain verified up votes came from @grandpawhale and @shadowbot members... Yet you call us a scam! Have fun NEVER getting another up vote from ANYONE in our system EVER again!
@steemflagrewards SPAM posting repeat same message over and over calling as many bots as possible over getting FREE up votes from our service!
i posted within rules the same message was only sent 10 times within steem TOS
Go pull up archive.org the "Way way back machine" and PROVE the FAQ page didn't change I DARE YOU! Oh and ADMIT you STILL have votes that I will be sure are REMOVED today from your latest posts before calling me/us a scam! PROOF:
Before: @grandpawhale THIRD highest up vote for your post:

After:

yes scam you get half the votes you give
You get ZERO votes now and are wasting time/energy flagging me and loosing ALL your rewards.. I just proved that you earn a BUNCH thanks to our platform and you still want to keep going!
Before:

After:

Liar and a fraud you make accusations that we play unfair and yet I have PROOF you were earning very nicely with us and decided to attack me for no reason at all!
maybe if you showed the stats
Mmm looks nice doesn't it just wait till ALL them are gone because 99% of those are shadowbot members ;)
But we never got you any upvotes you only had your top 3 as @grandpawhale!
99% of those are paid bots
i suppose if you were smart you wouldn't need to scam
why do scammers always try the most idiotic lies
Really @grandpawhale (#3 highest up vote you got) is a paid bot? ROFL you just keep talking out your ass!!
I TOOK my vote back from you because YOU called me a scam! Go look at the blockchain and/or this PROOF that you had a VERY nice up vote and gave it up by calling me a fraud when you CLEARLY earn a lot thanks to our system!
Funny all 11% WHY? That was YOUR POOL PRIORITY! THOSE ARE ALL SHADOWBOT MEMBERS! YOU ARE A FOOL AND A SCUMBAG FUCK OFF!
Funny you IGNORE ALL the votes you do get and are still wanting more! You don't even own 1k SP you claim you use all bid bots yet why are they all 11% when that was your pool priority ROFL you are a LIAR!
why do scammers always try the most idiotic lies
That is what you get for calling me a scam after getting 11% up vote from MY whale ;)
10.7% vote from @grandpawhale = 0.51c
and ALL the other members dont forget them I'll be sure to have them all removed soon so you can see what you ORGANICALLY earn and how much actually comes from @shadowbot ;)
i can do the simple math @shadowbot pays half what users pay in with delegating vote power to the devs who pay themselves 4 times the rest
here can see stats clearly
yes and all together gave me 2.50c minimum a day after 9 months at the top 10 rank in your group is a joke
What made you top rank? You were at 10 and change lol that isn't even close to top rank! And watch when we take ALL those away what is left you will have at most 10% of what you think you earn organically! You don't even realize how much we gave to you only to be called a fraud out of left field for NO REASON!
i thinks its funny you try and spread this lie not showing stats and claiming your scam pays users but are only charged 50% + for the privilege to be part of your shitshow
WHO are you paying? WE do NOT accept payment for votes so you are LIEING again! You must have paid a scam artist because @shadowbot is FREE!
i spent 300STEEM renting delegation for months and not taking rewards from posting that's how
you have control of #STEEM users keys witch giver you control of their VOTING POWER which when used on posts is turned into money and which you direct the most to your own accounts be they bots devs or copy pasting
WOAH 300 STEEM you must be a bo$$!! You made no posts in that time and the last post you did make got a lot of love from our platform. But watch it all go away now as I finish this script to reverse ALL your up votes taken from our members and you watch more than half your earnings disappear!
READ the rules you HAVE to POST to earn RANK! You chose not to! You didn't listen! Now you are mad! WHO you paying is not us and we didn't force you to! You are just a big cry baby who thinks they are owed more than they could DREAM of contributing! Like @grandpawhale a single vote from him is a week's worth of votes from you lol!
yes so i paid your scam group without getting this is why my rank was at the top and how i could show your scam
Yeah that is why YOUR own posts prove we distribute to everyone! Go look at @grandpawhale on blockchain and see just how many people get love from him! You will never get love from him again he hates you!
@grandpawhale proves you get votes as do the other top 15 voters on your post that are all members of @shadowbot so fuck off
Congratulations @oricaless!
Your post was mentioned in the Steemit Hit Parade in the following category:
Paid us ROFL we don't take payments so you must have the wrong people! Go complain to the people you rented your SP from since you feel scammed out of STEEM you "paid" lol
AND you don't leave our system! ROFL! Yu call us a scam tell me having your private posting keys puts us in control we NEVER abused that not even once! You STILL haven't reset your keys and left our system so obviously you know I AM RIGHT and you DID see value with us and now are mad because you LOST ALL OF YOUR RANK! Well that is what happens when you attack the devs and the team!
And yet you stick with us? IF you fear us having your keys why didn't you delete your account and reset them after 2 days already? BECAUSE YOU KNOW we aren't a scam or a fraud we NEVER abuse our power and you just want to start a flagging war with me and the big fish in the pool who out rank you!
i am staying to make sure no else gets taken by your scam
Don't worry you are the ONLY one who didn't get a rank increase today ;) https://steemit.com/shadowbot/@shadowbot/shadow-rank-boosts-week-2
i dont even post what can flags do?
i can spend 100's renting steem and flaggin you though
while you only use more voting power you should really pay to members of the group for all the votes you've taken since noone except the devs are in profit once you do the math
ROFL you just don't have any real steem influence and have no REAL concerns or you would pull your account and change your keys AS WE SUGGEST anyone who wants out to do. The very fact that you don't is just more proof of your slander and FUD spreading. You must work for fakebook or something!
you think im staying the 50 years it will take to build my rank = LOL
why would i ?
i can clearly be seen
your actions are obvious
i doubt anyone would give you so much faith as to believe your lies when facts are in front of their eyes
All you had to do was remove your flag and retract your statement yesterday and we could have came to a peaceful agreement. You doubled down and started calling flag bots on me which did nothing because as I said I don't self up vote and started a war with me for no reason! I very clearly gave you a way to back out of this and move forward. You decided to double down. So reap the crops you sowed and make like a tree and leave!
Like me making sure ALL your up votes from @shadowbot members are NOT given to you and returned to the rest of the pool? Sounds fair to me!
i dont want peace i want to end your scam so no more users get ROBBED
Flags cost you VP and earnings! Enough flags and your content is hidden and earns negative which means NO PAYOUT!
How can we rob anyone? We don't have access to funds! We distribute the votes on blockchain all transparent to everyone and anyone who wants to track them! You are out of your fucking mind!
i rarely post, flags mean nothing to me
We literally have pages of testimonials of people who earn FAR more thanks to our platform than they could on their own. YOU are the only person so far to have this issue and you don't even make more than 1 post a month! LOL shows who really cares about steem! NOT YOU!
and i dont care
what i care about is you ROBBING THOUSANDS OF STEEMIANS
Stay in our system, let us use all your VP everyday and get NOTHING back at least then when you call us a scam people will know why you feel that way! You were earning nicely till you created a problem where there wasn't one! You think I would allow our REAL GOOD casters to give your post calling OUR community a scam? You are out of your mind if you believe that is okay!
you have voting permission for 2379 users and direct where the votes(money) go and make sure to give votes to your own accounts and leave everyone else at a lose
RIGHT you don't care about earnings.. Now you are just talking out of your ass and proving you have NO REAL account VALUE and the bits you did earn were MORE than you contributed to our community! Thanks for proving that your account is so worthless you don't even care about it's value! Proved the point I'v been making! Bye felicia!
i can do the math on any user from stats which are east to get from blockchain viewing tools
nearly every user is losing money in shadowbot very few get more than they give
If you would like to pay for our new $5,000 server let me know I'm sure you think the hardware and software just magically runs for free though lol
Anytime you want to pay for our new $5,000 server let me know! I'll be sure to give you a nice boost for supporting the community!
judging by the 100's of shitposting and bot accounts in Shadowbot i wouldn't trust the legitimacy of your testimonials
bye felicia
what i get?
is it you spamming lies without the context of vote values trying to defend your scam
Check the blockchain! bye felicia
Congratulations @oricaless!
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hi - so I have been asked to do an independent audit @bigdeej. Wanna hit me up on discord and we can discuss? I'm not taking sides - I'm here to help try resolve this
I do not use discord as it is too easy for people to pretend to be someone else.
EVERYTHING is on the blockchain that @shadowbot and @bigdeej do so it is hard for me to understand that you can't just see how many votes this guy gets from our @shadowbot system. He is just spreading fud! Go search the blockchain that is the real truth!
please do not take offence to me stepping in, it may very well be fud. yes everything is in the block and i was asked because Im known for working with the data. I am NOT taking sides, and would much rather talk with you than do an analysis and post it without you knowing I am doing it. As it stands, I have not agreed to doing anything yet. a friendly discussion on discord will do no harm?
oh okay.
are you on steemchat?
good luck
youll be left with accounts like this
https://steemit.com/@marinkata
https://steemit.com/@velchev-tatoo
https://steemit.com/@mystic1000
no I don't use 3rd party chats that are not verifiable to the blockchain here or elsewhere. You can reach @jonbit if you would like or use our support ticket service.
Do your analysis we are BLOCKCHAIN PROVEN!
Instead of helping us find frauds that try to abuse us you call us the fraud.. See the irony in that?
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Your UA account score is currently 0.000 which ranks you at #96776 across all Steem accounts.
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nice earnings i gave 11 in 2 weeks using $6 in bots also
i spent a few 100 steem renting delegation for your scam group over months when it was 5 how much does that translate to votes and me not posting was giving more than anyone for free
thanks
so you take extra votes in a "fair" system without notice
its your project not my fault its so expensive you have to steal from members
love to see your proof on a blockchain verified system
You said we stole from you and yet you contribute nothing but hate to our community and steal from us our member's votes!
So it is OUR fault now that STEEM prices dropped? Gotcha buddy! Now I get why you are mad! You aren't a real steemian you just look at near term ROI and for someone to blame when prices go down!
yeah i got votes 2.5 a day
it wasnt the drop in price that cost me in shadowbot its to say i spent 100's in renting steem power and paying votes for months much higher than today would be thousands paid
WHO did you pay this $2.5 a day to? WHAT are you talking about we don't take payments! @paulag see this is the type of stuff i'm talking about. We have ZERO access to your funds and we do NOT control the price of steem yet he doesn't get how our system operates OR just wants to troll us! There is no discussion. Look at the blockchain and see the votes his posts get then look at the casters list: https://shadowbot.us/shadowbot/casters.php
See how almost ALL his votes come from OUR system and yet he accuses us of being a scam when he barely posts!
so you rented at bad prices and are mad at us now? HOW is it my fault you rented at high prices?
$2.5 a day minimum is 50% of my voting power is how the system works
https://shadowbot.us/shadowbot/faq.php
And that is spread across the WHOLE system! last i checked @grandpawhale gives almost ALL his VP away everyday and NEVER took anything from author votes (up votes on his posts)... You call me a scam yet we provide over 125k SP to ALL you including you!
when i had joined the last year the same as now i lost money because devs put votes to there accounts so everyone loses , that's why the majority of sp holders make way less than put in, unless you have little sp in first place
Your posts got a lot of love WHEN you posted. Not our fault you never made posts and then feel cheated.. Try making posts daily like the rest of us! Stop trolling and start chatting with us..
HOW can you loose money on a free service... You must be a special kind of stupid! #TROLL
its funny then your stats
@bigdeej

@jonbit

I post everyday ;) you don't
since everyone except the devs earns less than their contributed power its not free
you pay yourself over $500 on that account a week off course500 a week in my account lol you are insane!
Really @grandpawhale earns more than you? PROVE THAT! You get more from him than anyone else practically and complain!
sorry that was over a period
why would i say grandpawhale
ok ever user who isnt part of dev team gets less than the amount they contribute the same as me getting 2.5
over period
@grandpawhale never made 1 post how much do you think they contributed vs got back??? WHO do you pay $2.5/day to? It isn't us because we are a FREE SERVICE!
Yes you realized that we are a free service and you must be paying someone else $2.50/day because we don't take payments! You also finally see @grandpawhale contributes far far more than you do and NEVER took 1 vote from anyone in the pool.
you control my voting power i have a $0.50c vote
shadowbot takes minimum 50% voting a day = $2.5 a day voting which is then money since you pay the devs the rest lose
It goes to EVERYONE in the pool go look at the blockchain you can see who gets your votes!
ok here is @staticinstance for example
in august they got 2.95 vote (if 50% was used 449
And can you provide what @grandpawhale and @shadowbot's break downs are?
This is the first time I hear this. Was this rule (90 days) published anywhere else before ?
To be is is just a bold statement. All I want is - to see EXACTLY the formulas , how RANK is calculated. With all the variables encountered. So I can make a calculation myself, and prove myself I am in a totally FAIR and transparent game

These words sound to me like a bold statement.
In what UNITS this "amount" is measured?
What is "quality of content" ? How exactly it is determined? Who makes this determination - a human, or a computer? If computer , then it must be some clear and hard criteria, formulas, coefficients, algorithms involved. What are them ? How they work?
What I am really missing - is a lot more transparency, what exactly makes RANK and pool-priority figures high ( or low), and in what degree ???
And how all this corespond to a participants ROI ?
To me personally - all what matters is ROI. Not the absolute numbers of upvote qty, or collected Steem/Sp on upvotes. But only the ROI % - the Return-on-Investment. We invest our SP ( Steem-power), and want the good returns, right?
Shall I keep my SP with shadowbot, or maybe it is 5x times more profitable ROI % to delegate my SP to minnowbooster ( or any other bot)?
How excatly I can raise my ROI ? Not the amount of upvotes, or SBD collected, but the ROI PERCENTAGE?
Which of these accounts will get a better ROI?
https://i.imgur.com/lAxvCFX.png
A or B? C or D? E or F?
It seems to me more and more, that there is little (or none) of the fixed, clearly determined algorithms in shadowbot, and more everything is based on subjective, human (dev's) evaluations and actions.
Good thing is - everything is Burned in stone" on blockchain, so not easy to hide and obfuscate all this as a fair game.
The bad thing is - it takes much time, (and knowledge) to explore all blockchain data properly.
And even if this data outcomes will show reality is different from what it was declared - will it eventually change anything?
Some times it is more easy and rational - just LEAVE....
What are these support tickets? To whom do they go?
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support tickets are made on their site https://shadowbook.io/support/ and go to team bigdej johnbit lost108
I'm sorry @bigdeej ... but that is a blatant lie. I was a moderator on ShadowBot discord for some time, and almost everyone was upset with the lack of answers and transparency. I recently removed all of my accounts and friends accounts that I manage. Some of these accounts had SP well in excess of 500, and yet a priority of just 0.2 ... FOR MONTHS ... without explanation of exactly HOW they would/IF they ever would move up.
I tried following this thread but (much like my experience with you and @jonbit in person and on discord), your responses are incoherent at worst or off-topic at best and never actually address any questions posed to you.
As for quality posts being rewarded: Another load of BS.
Countless reports of blatant spam have gone ignored and continually rewarded. The newest automated shit-posting accounts have magically gone from 0 to hero in a matter of a few weeks on ShadowBot - most of them without any real SP (some with a fair amount of delegated SP now though - which apparently shouldn't count for anything according to you)... but these accounts obviously either belong to buddies of yours and/or more likely belong to you.
Long story short: @ShadowBot is probably not a scam per se, but is only beneficial to those in the devs' inner circle and/or those who got in on the pyramid early on. EVERYONE ELSE IS GETTING SCREWED!
cc @isacoin / @oricaless
I'm putting this reply in the root level as well, just in case you missed it on the ~300 odd back-and-forth replies:
[in response to @bigdeej claiming that everyone in ShadowBot is happy]
I'm sorry @bigdeej ... but that is a blatant lie. I was a moderator on ShadowBot discord for some time, and almost everyone was upset with the lack of answers and transparency. I recently removed all of my accounts and friends accounts that I manage. Some of these accounts had SP well in excess of 500, and yet a priority of just 0.2 ... FOR MONTHS ... without explanation of exactly HOW they would/IF they ever would move up.
I tried following this thread but (much like my experience with you and @jonbit in person and on discord), your responses are incoherent at worst or off-topic at best and never actually address any questions posed to you.
As for quality posts being rewarded: Another load of BS.
Countless reports of blatant spam have gone ignored and continually rewarded. The newest automated shit-posting accounts have magically gone from 0 to hero in a matter of a few weeks on ShadowBot - most of them without any real SP (some with a fair amount of delegated SP now though - which apparently shouldn't count for anything according to you)... but these accounts obviously either belong to buddies of yours and/or more likely belong to you.
Long story short: @ShadowBot is probably not a scam per se, but is only beneficial to those in the devs' inner circle and/or those who got in on the pyramid early on. EVERYONE ELSE IS GETTING SCREWED!
cc @isacoin / @oricaless
I'm putting this reply in the root level as well, just in case you missed it on the ~300 odd back-and-forth replies:
[in response to @bigdeej claiming that everyone in ShadowBot is happy]
I'm sorry @bigdeej ... but that is a blatant lie. I was a moderator on ShadowBot discord for some time, and almost everyone was upset with the lack of answers and transparency. I recently removed all of my accounts and friends accounts that I manage. Some of these accounts had SP well in excess of 500, and yet a priority of just 0.2 ... FOR MONTHS ... without explanation of exactly HOW they would/IF they ever would move up.
I tried following this thread but (much like my experience with you and @jonbit in person and on discord), your responses are incoherent at worst or off-topic at best and never actually address any questions posed to you.
As for quality posts being rewarded: Another load of BS.
Countless reports of blatant spam have gone ignored and continually rewarded. The newest automated shit-posting accounts have magically gone from 0 to hero in a matter of a few weeks on ShadowBot - most of them without any real SP (some with a fair amount of delegated SP now though - which apparently shouldn't count for anything according to you)... but these accounts obviously either belong to buddies of yours and/or more likely belong to you.
Long story short: @ShadowBot is probably not a scam per se, but is only beneficial to those in the devs' inner circle and/or those who got in on the pyramid early on. EVERYONE ELSE IS GETTING SCREWED!
cc @isacoin / @oricaless
I'm not even on discord so you just ate your own foot ;)
I never said you were... ShadowBot and Jonn are!
But in typical Glenn & Jonn style, you ignore the questions posed and either deflect or chose to insult.
Shame!
I do not ever ignore questions. If you have any problems you may use the support ticket system to report them so we can get them resolved ASAP.
Hahahaha... you're kidding me, right? You cannot possibly actually believe that to be true.
Tickets have been logged (to follow process), but before that Facebook messages sent, Discord (group and private) (voice and text) chats had for months (with Jonn, not you)... and hardly ever an answer to the actual topic in question was received.
p.s. I assume you're not going to apologise for your previous message/retract it either?
Edit: I just noticed all my support tickets have been closed (after weeks of being open) without a response.
Anyway... I don't expect you to actually respond with anything remotely coherent... so please don't, unless it's with actual answers to the questions already posed.
Quality content is very subjective.. One man's quality post is another man's shit post.
I don't class meme's or a one sentence question quality content but obviously someone does on shadowbot