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Current Steemit Problems and Solutions
Steemit.com is a highly innovative block-chain SNS platform.
However, there is still a shortage because it is still an unfinished beta version.
This shortage is a complaint of early adopters, and is often a factor making users to leave steemit.com.
Is there any way to prevent users from leaving steemit.com?
To do that, you have to figure out the problem.
The steemit.com user group is divided into four groups.
The first is those who have been involved with steemit.com since its launch and have a large stake in steemit.com. These are called whales.
The second is those who see the possibility of steemit.com, buy steem on the market, collect steem through writing, power it up, and have a lot of steem power. They are called dolphins.
The third is that people who have heard steem story somewhere and joined but have not got much steem power, so they can hardly get the voting reward even if they make a vote.
The fourth is investors who have invested to make money and have no interest in complicated rules of steem. They hold steem as flowing steem, not steem power.
As you can see, the current steemit.com has a structure that is not completely satisfactory for any of the four classes.
https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/http://i.imgur.com/ewlv7XO.png
I think the first problem with steem is that people who have steem power can not predict how effective their votings will be. Perhaps all steemPower owners want to know how much they reward the author once they have done their voting. But currently there is not a definite way to calculate.
The second problem is that people who are new to steemit.com think that writing compensation will be given in proportion to the number of votings. And this is a fairly reasonable idea. However, steemit.com's writing compensation is not necessarily proportional to the number of recommendations. So, to understand this, you have to explain it using very difficult mathematics, and most of the time they don't understand and you also don't fully understand, even if you explain it. So, most of the early users say, "This system is like a #%$#." And then he leaves steemit.com and does not come back.
The situation is that the price of steem does not rise compared to the other coins, and naturally traders are also dissatisfied or do not return.
I think the weak points of steem are as follows. The high rate of inflation was not a problem, and the high share of whales was not a problem either. The problem is that voting rights are not given in direct proportion to the steem power and one voting does not exercise the same rewards. The voting of a person with a lot of steem power provides more reward. This is intuitively unreasonable, irrespective of what the truth is. It is intuitively understandable that a person with a lot of steem power has more voting rights, but it is hard to understand that while doing the same act of voting, the voting with more steem power is more valuable. I recognize the economic power of people who have a lot of steem power, but it is hard to understand that they have a better view of the article because they have more steem power. Wisdom can not be proportional to the person's economic power. Regardless of whether the steem power is high or low, one recommendation, voting should have the same value. And voting rights should be exercised differently depending on the amount of steem. This is because the voting and voting rights are very important to share the profits from the steem block chain. It is natural that whales have more stakes in steem than dolphins and therefore have more profit sharing rights.
In order to solve the problem of steem above, I propose the following.
first,
"Let's give voting right on writing in proportion to steem power"
The steem power of a certain person divided by steem_per_m vests (for now 479.248 STEEM) corresponds to the maximum possible number of voting per day. At this time, if the owner of a steem power of 479.248 or less based on the current time of writing, by discarding the decimal point, it can induce the participant to engage in writing actively by reserving the right of voting until the steem power reaches 479.248 steem power. also it is possible to block the activity of the steem bots which can be pointless.
This will increase demand for steem power.
For example, a user with 500 steem power can vote one time a day and a user with 400 steem power can not vote because the right to recommend is still reserved. If you have 10,000 steem power, you will be able to make 20 recommnedations a day.
At present, total_vesting_shares is 439,294 M VESTS, so the voting daily total is 439,294.
second,
"Let's pay writing reward in direct proportion to recommendation frequency"
This is a very important part. Most of the current steemit.com issues are that the compensation is felt unfair. And this part is hard to explain. In the image above, @klye received 237 recommendations and @barrydupton received 146 recommendations. Who needs more reward? Of course, most people answer @klye, but at steemit.com @barrydupton received more reward. And this happens often at steemit.com. Reward at steemit.com is an evaluation of the value of the article. but a recommendation by @ned alone is more rewarding than a recommendation by 100 people with a steam power of less than 1,000. Who can agree on this? Although @ned has more stake, we can admit that he has more voting rights, but it is arrogant that his recommendation itself is more valuable than the other's recommendation.
Currently, the total_reward_fund_steem of steemit.com is 50,149,539 STEEM. Of these, 37,612 STEEMs, 75% of which are authors' reward. Therefore, assuming that all votings are being exercised, one voting will have a value of 0.0856 steem. There are a number of recommendations that do not actually exercise the voting rights. Thus, exercising a voting right once is worth much more than this. In addition, 10% of the reward will be received by the recommender, so the recommender will be rewarded with 0.0114 STEEM by recommending once.
What can we get if we do this?
(1) Recommenders will be able to make recommendations to articles that they think are good. Now, I would recommend it to other people's favorite article rather than my favorite article. This is because you can get more voting rewards. This will naturally make it easier for new authors to enter the market. Because there is no reason to recommend to famous authors.
(2) Demand for steem power will increase.
(3) Users will feel that the rewards of steemit.com are fair, which will contribute to increased membership.
(4) Writers do not need to worry about getting a whale or dolphin's liking.
If you have only the voting rights, you will have the same value of someone's recommendation. Naturally, articles from various fields and perspectives come up.
(5) steemit.com is easy to understand and simple to operate from the user's point of view. And simplicity makes it possible for anyone to explain everything to others.
I may have errors in my thoughts, and if there are any mistakes, I would be grateful if you commented on it.
(This posting was originally written in Korean by @leesunmoo (https://steemit.com/kr/@leesunmoo/6r1hns) and translated by @arama. If you like this posting, you can also vote the original article:) )
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great posting.... ^^
Good~~~
oh good find man!
Good thoughts, but not all true.
Big holders can split their shares into small accounts.
By setting a meaningful threshold, new users can't participate at all so most of them will leave.
I submitted another proposal here: https://github.com/steemit/steemit.com/issues/1004
Thank you for your post. I gain new insights.
@arama you are a curator. So is @leesunmoon. My hypothesis is that you have an economic incentive to reduce or remove the power law payout for other more powerful (whale) curators, this will allow you to increase your own rewards.

@arama($26,271.90 - net value on steemit.com)
@leesunmoon($12,474.28 - net value on steemit.com)
I think you are onto something. The reward payout structure is based on Zipf's law. Once people realize that they're basically worthless in a scenario of 80% of the people being the "short-tail", then they leave. This really is the CENTRAL problem that Steemit users continue to leave. That and the fighting over content wars. I think the content wars would evaporate if the whale's absurd amount of power over what trends would be abolished. It really is a centralization of power that needs to be addressed. If your ideas are refined, and worked out, I think good creators would be attracted to Steem. Zipf's law is the wrong model to follow when dealing with human emotions.
Thank you for the honourable mentions. :)
we will not convince people by giving them money. Our authors have to convince their readers, that this is good place to be.
Interesting idea, but we already went through this.
If votes were equal, people would game the system by making an army of bots to vote their stuff. One guy months ago had like 2000bots upvote his stuff but it only got him pennies.
Autovote bots by users with high Sp are the problem. It allows certain recievers to money grab, hensr the multiple posts per day that always recieve a nice payout.
Check the trending page, same users everyday sometimes multiple times.
The only people happy are the users able to money grab because lazy whales auto vote them everytime. And even those users making out nice are still greedy and complain about there false sense of creating "Timeless" cherished content worthy of kings..
Its just the same crap we all find in real life:
Nobodies happy
Everyone is mad
Simply because they believe they are worth more than the next. And some really get to believe it because they get paid no matter what.
@generation.easy 의견 감사합니다. 당신의 의견은 일정부분 논리적입니다.
그러나 1mvests 에 1 투표권이 주어진다면 고래들이 자동봇을 할거라는 우려는 타당하지 않다고 생각합니다.
왜냐하면 고래들은 steemit.com 의 성장을 바라는 이들이기 때문입니다. 그들은 자신들의 장기적 이익을 해지치 않을것입니다.
그리고 1일 10회 이상의 추천권을 행사하려면 50평판 이상이어야 한다는 조건을 추가한다면 자동봇 남용은 더욱 더 효율적으로 관리할수 있게 될것입니다.
(@ Generation.easy Thank you for your feedback. Your opinion is somewhat logical.
But if 1mvests is given one vote, I do not think the concern that whales will do automatic bots is justified.
Because whales are people who want to grow steemit.com. They will not overcome their long-term interests.
And if you add more than 50 reputations in order to exercise more than 10 referrals per day, you will be able to manage the automatic bot abuse more efficiently.)
Always appreciate your feedback and support @abit --- sincerely!
BD
나는 아래 이미지와 같은 의미의 글들을 아주 쉽게 발견할수 있다. 현재 steemit.com 사용자들이 느끼는 감정이다. 사용자가 이런 감정을 느끼는 상태에서 steemit.com 의 성장은 쉽지 않다.
http://i.imgur.com/pmGiBbu.png
I noticed your vote today on my post, on a similar topic, so I was coming to say hi and thanks for the Upvote!
Saw the topic and oddly enough my name and posts etc were used in your post LOL
You caught me on a day where I had some whales vote on my post -- most days are not like that for me and I have suffered 95% of my days here, -- not getting any rewards for my hard work on a lot of posts.
There is lots of proof of that.
Many (most days) --- I get over 100 votes on things, some days like you point out with my friend above @klye - or 200 votes some days -- and the payouts are literally 30¢. You can scroll down my posts to see proof that, very easily.
I agree with you , there are issues that need to be addressed.
Just know most days, --- I am the @klye on here --- and he is usually me 9/10x and he would tell you that LOL!!!
Very good post by you. Changes are coming soon that I hope the dev's are fixing some of these problems, many many people have left and taken issue, just like you say.
That is listed in the recent official @steemitblog post for proposed updates coming
Have a nice week!!!
ha! I did not see all the comments when I made mine --- have a look at what I said and I mentioned you here, LOL
funny actually.
If you have a minute, please look at my comments here in the thread Stella. I have had the same days on here, same issues, bumming me out a lot of the time, how odd is it like I said about @klye here earning less on a post than me, -- 95% of my days here like I was saying, I earn about 50¢ or $1 a day and I work super hard on a lot of my content.
What im understanding is your suggesting each vote can be only 1mvest and if you dont have that then you cant vote?
Thats a good thought i havent heard before, but i would have to contest that that method would create an investment heavy system...
Not sure if this would attract the everyday user, but its an idea that can be worked out
Thanks for the Zipf's reference. I totally get the content wars, and even "content du jour". Stuff like TIL come and go. But they don't stick in any meaningful way. We may need to restructure how rewards are allocated. I think reputation is very important, so why not factor that into the reward?
haha thanks for your reply. I also expect steemit will change in the right direction and have belief in the ability of this community to solve many inevitable problems. :) You too have nice week!
agreed.
if we think about it, true virality means more people like a particular post. If we factored in reputation as a determining factor for reward distibution, instead of SP power holders, this could make a difference. Having SP doesn't mean you're a good curator or someone who knows about social trends. The problem of sybil attacks could be solved by having reputation as a determining factor for rewards.
i really hope so. Until then, users will get frustrated and leave. I've never seen another social media platform hemorrhage in the way they do here.
Exactly! Since it's based on vests right now, I wonder if reputation could be a factor of some sort. I assume its based on a 100 scale (maybe I am wrong). But that would be a good place to start.
""The only happy are the users able to money grab because lazy whales auto vote them everytime. "" well said !! so true
Thank you @arama for your post, very interesting, i understand now while i get somehow "frustrated"....mainly for the reason that we see that poor content can be rewarded more than it should be....
Thank you.
Exchellent post!!
Thank you for sharing :)
Happy Hour, After you download DiscordApp let me know your user name or you can try to find me @battleaxe on there....here is the invite code https://discord.gg/A57ng , this is for those who upvoted to express interest, if you are not on the list you need to upvote to join or you can't jump in on another's invite. ;)
That's what I was wondering, thanks!
Interesting read. My response to this subject tends to me the same. Steemit needs killer features that would attract users even without any financial incentive.
I think so too. I am also curatorial in Korea, but this is not enough ...
great post.. i follow u...can u follow me? @zaragast
It's been 4 months since you created this post and I see that many things have not changed. Sometimes, I have done post elaborated and I am discouraged to see my rewards ... Also now the bots have gained much ground and with a single click they give 230 votes. How do you see the platform now? Luckily the steem price went up and seems to be kept at a good price.
thans for this post its worked really.. @arama
Very good post, I like you very much, I follow you
Interesting post, I just read it. Because I am newbie, I will try to understand it more. Tks already shared
Exelente post, excellent platform steemit I am really excited and I have dedicated much of my time in trying to grow in this community, a vote may not cost you anything but for me it means a lot, you follow me I tell you.
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Thank you for sharing information with us, excellent work, I would like to be great as you and I am working on it, follow me and I follow you
Thanks your good article!
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WEll written ! WE need a re balance and fairness for all users
Wow.........! a very genius thought, thanks have shared
Thanks for sharing steem problems & solutions
Thanks also for your support
Followed just now
Have a great day
What is your point of view about the hard fork 19!
As I understood :
Forks ahead!
Voting power will not last as long as depletion occurs quicker !
The reward algorithm is going to go linear !
The end of the whale flagging experiment !
https://i.imgsafe.org/7becb316a4.jpeg
Hope to let me know
your point of view
Thanking in advance
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These are some very good solutions u mentioned. I as a newbie am struggle to get my post viewed and upvoted by ppl myself
Nice article to help me learn more about stremit
The situation improved since. Would you agree? I would be interested in reading an update. This was 5 moths ago...
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Can you take a look on my post, it may interest you,Thanks.
https://steemit.com/money/@wallsnow/introducing-randowhale-get-whale-power-by-sending-steem-stemm-dollar
Hi @arama, hopefully Steemit will balance out a bit, its hard being a Minnow!
Followed & upvoted
Please do the same ☺.
Thankyou
very good points and solutions!
Nice one mate, you make some compelling point's - I just signed up and made my first post on steemit yesterday, it seems like there will be a lot of issues as this grows (if it grows, there's alot of barriers to entry I feel).
I see you haven't posted much recently, are you still using the platform?
Cheers,
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Nice written!!
really this article explained to me things I couldn't understand earlier but now it made it clear to me
really helpful to me and newbies also
shared this one with honor to help my followers too
I was really concerned about how impropotionate was the number of voters to the rewards, i feel like there is a missapropation but now i think am getting the mechnism involved.
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Thanks for sharing
Happy Hard Fork 19 Day to you
Ok... This post was posted 5 months ago...
I have a feeling you found out some type
of secret about Steemit that made you quit
posting... I need to find out this secret...lol
@pocketechange
Nice post! I voted for you.
Please follow me, I will follow you back! :)
Thank you for sharing this, I think I will bookmark this post to clear me some things.
Thank you @arama for the useful and interesting information! And for your support! I give you poppy from Ukraine!
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Thx for this article, it was a very good article, but now with HF19 does it still all apply?
Thank you for your gift!
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nic post @arama
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Nice Post, Even in your post also, it has 190 votes and only 11$, this is not justified ratio ... :)
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Happy that everything it's working yet :)) followed in case you posting new informations
thank you for being with us :)
Hoping these problems be resolved. Thanks for sharing your thoughts @arama :)
Still holds true 5 months after. Except now steemit is gaining mass adaption
thanks for sharing about that problem,
Hi,
I heard about Delegated SP few days ago.
May be you'll be interested to Delegate some of your SP (166SP) to me.
It'll help me grow.Thanks
Thank you very much for that vote you gave me on my post
followed you ; o)
Does the new HF19 fix this?
I hope that they change the system or improve ut more.
To tell you the truth it is complicated for me to understand the steem system @arama
What I do know is that if I have a lot of SP then I can earn more even throgh self-voting.
good post..
Thanks for pointing out such great issue.i request u review my post and get me opportunity to develop myself.
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Nice post, thank for sharing my friend @arama
Thx, this was a very good post. It makes a lot more sense now...
Good Article. I am going to understand steem step by step a little more.
I upvote and follow you
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Very informative post. @arama
Gave me some nice ideas about steemit
Here's a small tip for a great post. I will be following you. Please follow me @steemisupport
Wow this may be the best explanation of the Steem system and platform I have seen yet. Needs to be revived soem how.
This can not be Resteemed?
Amazing post follow you.If you don't mind Plz check my posts i am new on steem support me thankx
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@arama informative and insightful - thanks for sharing!
i can really resonate with your thoughts @arama and think is it necessary for some changes..
but i am wondering when the final version will be finished, the alpha version, could you answer this?
Good post and useful, thanks @arama has shared with us, please follow me @miftahuddin if you do not mind, so I always get your posts.
@arama This is the real problem .
I am new here and it is way too difficult for me to understand the rules and procedures of Steemit and the reward system.
This post really helped me understand a lot about it now..
Thank you soo much for this informative post.
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Do share your Views
Thanks again.
Thanks for the insight.
The current system needs to be understood.
I want to know more about the mathematical systems.......
I would keep searching, I'm now getting embedded into steemit
Thanks for support to my work
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Hey Arama, I see u have a lot of steem power you setup up bot voting so u can make like 600 a week ... here is an idea.. I was thinking of setting up a voting bot like Randowhale, people pay 2 dollars a vote.. currently randowhale is make 70 k a day. I would need Steem power delegated and I would take a small fee of 5 percent. I think per day the amount made would be about 1 k maybe so 950 for you and 50 for me. Let me know your thoughts?
Thanks for sharing steem
Interesting article thanks for sharing....upvoted and followed you
Steem trend is up what you think!!
I will be happy if your hear your point of view
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Thanks @arama
Many thanks for such an article! It was interesting for me to read! I fully support your suggestions in solving problems! I wish you success!
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I have did all as you said in the post and it's working great.
Thankyou, Keep it up.,
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Great post. Something I'd like to see is when voting reaches a certain tipping point that more credit is given towards the post. For example I've seen some great posts with like 50 upvotes that are making under a buck but then another post can have 2 votes and make $50. I wish that once a post got 25 upvotes or 50 upvotes there was some kind of bonus that kicks in. I don't like that a large portion of the community can like and get behind a post but unless a whale also likes it it doesn't really go anywhere.
I also think having a better organization system and search function for content would be idea. I try to seek out the type of content I like but it's kind of a hassle with the current categories and current search function
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This is very informative. Great post! I follow you.
The recent hard fork has helped a little with regards to voting power. Still no way to find out your vote amount in $ though? :(
That's great! I am following you! Upvoted!
Good post @arama, I can keep leaening more from you
Pls check on my post and up vote my post thanks.. I have followed you just now
Thanks for the support, really appreciate it ;)
nice post
:D I've been observing your voting today, very liberal, good man!
Hi brother,
Would you like to help me,
Because my posts are very few people who support.
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Very good post, thanks for sharing it.
Can to help my post that no support, I want to get excited to play this steemit blogging. Maybe this is my way to get excited. Greetings Aceh Tsunami
@arama
thanks for sharing the facts
it really helped
Hey brother, can you help me. Because every post I always have a little supporters and make me less enthusiasm.
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Can you help me in every post I have
Help me @arama my post no support
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Nice your post awesome
Wonderful overall explanation of steemit . Would be ecstatic if all your recommendations will be adopted . However, surely it won't .those in power have a lot to loose.
nevertheless, steem on
Amazing articles, those are great suggestions
Nice sharing..thanks @arama have vote on my blog :) @lusanamaya , i hope you can support me and my community..thanks a lot.
Thank you for your voice)
I hope you post soon more somethink, I would like see what you make :)
Thanks to all of you who have shared all the problems and solutions about steemit ... especially the steemit problem at the moment. And also thanks @arama for your support
hey @arama,
thanks for sharing these thoughts and suggestions on improvements hopefully some will be addressed in coming forks and bot activity reduced especially the # tag auto comment bots which i think bring no value to posts.
I would like to thank you for all the work your doing voting on quality Minnow posts lately its very time consuming to search through and not enough whales are voting these days in my opinion
Also thanks for voting on one of my posts when i was a new user,
it was a great help to me and without that i think i would have quit a long time ago.
You Rock :)
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Hey thanks for your upvote, how come you don't post I'd love to help you out with upvote via whaleshares
Let me follow you, I've seen your article and I really like your article, I think you are a great person ,, @arama
If you do not mind please see some of my articles ,, may be interested
Yeah there are some problems too but recently i had my own experience that it has some bandwidth issue many people asked for help and within a day it got solved too, so yeah problems may come but with collective efforts of all we can make it the best :)
Very interesting article. I hope this article can be a reference for steemit development. Because the gap between the four classes mentioned in this post is very real and big. Especially for new users who know steemit as a place to mine the dollar, it will immediately leave the steemit after knowing that what they expect is not as easy as they hear. Steem power is a major obstacle.
There are still several issues raised in the steemit community. Always seeking to raise the morale of users who publish high quality and receive little support from accounts with influence. Greetings my friend @arama
Nice post @arama and i like post you..i follow you
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You should post more often man! Can we talk about steemit somewhere? Like steemit chat :D Thanks!
hey mate cool stuff there ! :)
come and check my blog i post some stuff for ya'll :)
Se ya around i followed u :D
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again some great thoughts
I think steemit development has to have a look into this as the System has to be fair to survive a long long time!!
Hii @arama. I have followed you. . Thankyou for sharing.
I like post you my freind @arama
Hi @arama, , Will you see my new post ??
I am very interested in your post sir. And I always follow your next posting @arama 👏👏👏
Good information. Very useful for me. Thanks for share information @arama
I resteem now.
I just stumbled across this and then got to the end and realized it was written 8 months ago! So these problems are still the same problems, which is sad. I am kinda new on steemit; I joined in June. Things are a little disappointing, but I like the overall concept, so I stay. I particularly related when you say:
I recognize the economic power of people who have a lot of steem power, but it is hard to understand that they have a better view of the article because they have more steem power. Wisdom can not be proportional to the person's economic power.
Also, sometimes I see my post has 20 likes and 6 views. People are clearly just upvoting for hope of reciprocity of some kind without reading articles. Not that they have much power, but that kind of behavior de-validates things as well.
I don't have the kind of thought-out solutions you have proposed. I hope the right people eventually read this and do something about it, lest the beautiful concept fail.
Thanks for writing this @arama.
Very good post arama
Thankyou for sharing , i like post
Nice post
감사합니다
@arama why gx you make post, i want to follow you and upvote you
@arama why gx you make post, i want to follow you and upvote you
@arama I always wait for your new pots ok, regards to know for you from me. I am from india origin in aceh
@arama I always wait for your new pots ok, regards to know for you from me. I am from india origin in aceh
Upvoted by @andravasko , upvoted community helps minnow steemit . explanation HERE !!!
Do not make my bunghole angry!... You have any holio?
I am happy to find your post, that is because you upvote my post. Me and my friends just talked about how to invite others to write in Stemit. It is easy but the problem is how to keep them stay in Steemit. We are lost. The problem is, we could not find the pattern of posting who got rewards and who don't. Good and bad writings are depending on luck. Lucky, we are writers who love writings and it is our pleasure if we can support toward better. Your solution will be supported by me. Thank you for your upvote and your posts are brilliant @arama
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STOPI think the line where you said "Wisdom can not be proportional to the person's economic power" speaks volumes
so agree with this bro..brilliant.
very good..
nice post..
Interesting post, I just read it. Because I am newbie, I will try to understand it more.
posting is very useful, very much a lot to the advantage to the reader.
if you want to once go to my blog yes friends
@jasonmunapasee
hi, nice to read about you.
i am, sajedul ahmed, from bangladesh,am also new on steemit and welcome you to steemit.
i have followed you. so, can also follow me plz.and plz upvoted my post.
best of luck...
You explain well about the steem voting power sir, and hope so, I guess some was being addressed. There's still good to come for us who no high steem power, but.like me I just enjoying posting my blog poems and other and felt so great if my post will be U.V a few some.
In the future we all hopes that steem will be more and much competitive than other platform and can be more beneficial to those minnows like me.
Thank you for giving some of the solution and pointing out some issues to the steemit community. Hope the higher ones will look for about.
God bless. And steem on.
I like
thanks for sharing bro :) feel free to check my blog :)
wow nice article you have..i will give you my support and thumbs up of upvote..
Just came across this post after 8 months hahah.
What do you think about the Steemit after HF19?
btw: thanks for supporting. really appreciate it.
Helloo @arama
thanks for sharing .. i like your post
I am followed you
I'm now on Steemit for about a month and still don't get the whole voting power thing.
What I do undestand is that in the beginning newbie's do want to get quick money but it's better to invest in voting power on longer term.
Thank you for translating this article and Steem on!
Hello @arama. you translated an awesome post that was written by @leesunmoo. I got a new knowledge by reading your best transalation. Thank you very much. Have a nice day.
Regard from Indonesia.
@bahagia-arbi
I like your post @arama
Thank for sharing
Thanks for posting this. I want to read it in its entirety ASAP.
I've had very high hopes for steam it yet I feel discouraged by the poor reciprocation. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Just trying to be a good player in this game.
Amazing post. please follow and upvoted me.
Nice Arama Sama good post
Thanks @arama for posting about this and @leesunmoo for the great info! I've never understood how voting works on Steemit, but this sheds so much light on the topic and you provide great ideas. I'm now following both of you and upvoted. Hope you will follow me for original content and news about Blockchain, Bitcoin, Cryptocurrency and ICOs. Cheers! @thoughtchain
Great Post Thank you!
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Hi @arama, just wanna say thanks for dropping by my photography post and upvoting it. :)
Thanks for the sharing! Totally agree with the problems.
You should blog more :). Cheers! Thanks for your support, appreciate it!
I love steemit! Thank u for sharing :)
nice post sir can u see my post and up voted
nice to meet u
wow Thanks for sharing steem problems & solutions
Have a great day
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NIce one
NIce one
I just followed you and upvote ur post ....
Will you upvote my post please
Thanks for sharing.
great posting . as you mentioned end, I read @leesunmoo article before. Great!!
I'll follow you. and follow me.
thank you ... this post make me about problem steemit
Thanks for translating and posting this.
These are the main points, which indeed effecting the users as mentioned above. Since it's in beta, lets hope it can be improvised much better.
Very very informative post. . I love this post. It increases our practical knowldege about this platform. Thanks for sharing .
Beautiful analysis ! Great post !! Thank you so much for your effort !!
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STOPupvote for upvote
folow for follw
and comment for comment.
upvote for upvote
folow for follw
and comment for comment.
Hope steemit improves soon n accordingly. I heard many issues like this. But everyone concerns so there must be good results. :)
thank you sir for this knowledgeable blogs, i learned a lot of what happen. for me as a newbie sometimes its kinda hard to understand. now it is cleared to me. thank you
Something really needs to be done about this to make the platform more user friendly to newcomers I'm one of those and thank you for your great insight.
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STOPVery good post..thanks for upvote@arama
Exactly brother ... besides that there are also some things that are outside of the whales and the triders. There are some things that are lacking in steemit. For example its like a vidio came that still not work
That's making me think. A lot of the points actually make sense.
More or stronger Steem power would surely help:)
The Steemit ecosystem is very complicated and will never be perfect for everyone.
I appreciate very much that you are exploring the depths of this platform as we all need to ponder and discuss it more.
Thanks for the up vote, I found you here because of that. Hope to see you around soon and maybe begin a dialogue on how to improve our own lives and the lives of those on this planet earth!
how in love if there are Steemit users who died right? but Steemit is something really for us all not ...! from that I have no intention at all to leave the world of Steemit, even I really want to improve with my own ability.
become one of your new friends, please hopefully even so. I feel more confident in every post, because the science that I get from a friend of Steemit's friends. thank you for sharing knowledge in the post as well as my post. @aemkar
I am very grateful for this post, because it is a lot of steemit users to complain as you submit, convey no solution yet.
And recently there are also many developing projects to develop steemit, whether it works or not.
Like the steempunk-net gaming project for steemit
Check out my post.
https://steemit.com/steempunknet/@rizaldamti/steempunk-net-tutorial-installed-to-be-protected-game-steempunknet
Thanks for information @arama.
Very informative and fantastic post . thanks for sharing. please check my post and upvote me.
Very good post.
Hi I am Korean newbie. I stared steeit from this month! If you fine, Let’s share good info&photo:)
I will follow you:)
nice post
Thanks for sharing such as veluable post
Keep it up @arama
Thanks for information
Hii @arama follow me.
https://busy.org/@mardha
Thanks for sharing.. After almost a year, steemit is still a beta version.
Thanks for sharing
Good post @arama
@arama

so fun.I saw a Christmas tree under the microscope!
我在显微镜下看见了一棵圣诞树!
https://steemit.com/sciencepic/@liuboya/christmas-science-picture-challenge
Happy new year, bro~
good post
Good post
I have been blogging for more than TEN years, no money. But now, I found I can earn a bit money from blogging on Steemit.com. I think it is fantastic.
I miss your visit @arama to my blog
@arama Very interesante. Stavo vedendo il tuo blog. Interesting channel you have got here. Cheers
@arama interesting post. i liked it and i just followed you.
Thank you so much for this informative post.
I am still familiarizing the site.Thanks for this post.It helps me a lot Sir!!
Some people might be leaving because they have no enough knowledge on how steemit works, they have lacks of education, that is why we need more keen people who can share their knowledge to educate others.
Great post @arama.. I'll be right here waiting next post.. Happy new years.. Best luck for you and family.. Warm regards from Indonesia..
Thanks for sharing steem problems & solutions
Thanks also for your support
Followed just now
Have a great day
Hi @arama
I just stop by to give you an upvote. your post is very good and very helpful
please help me with upvote on https://steemit.com/cc/@bangsadies/jalan-sukses
wooow great post @arama! Thank you for sharing this information with us. Really great work. Thanks = )
Great post pity that I did not see it before, thank you very much for sharing it;)
Thanks @arama has visited my post. I am very happy to see it, and hopefully we can be good friends.
good luck my friends.
Nice post brother...I like it
thank you @arama
this is one of my things, with this I came to know .thanks
Thank you for this! Hoping for your support! Just followed you. Regards from the Philippines!
thank you for sharing this info mam!
Very very old post :D, old but gold
Articles that are very useful, thanks support @arama
dear @arama your poste is very important for all steemit worker i believed that all steemit worker give you good feedback so carry one @arama , & i give you 0.05 SBD i believed that you give me up vote thanks @arama a lot of for your poste.
Very informative post dear @arama
Thank you so much for share this topic.
Brothers like you, powerful steemains like you always will help with small steemain like me, I requesting you , please you visit my account @shakirchy
Thang you
thank you very much visited in my posting;;
happy greeting friends hopefully steemit success always I strongly conquer your support, by reading your post I can be inspired.
Wow....... Solution the best I likes you
Thanks, @arama. As a new member of Steemit, I can confirm that it feels unfair that one user's vote can have more impact than 1000 votes from other users combined.
We already live in a world which is ruled by money. (I well aware, that's one reason many of us are here :)). For me, part of the blockchain-promise is that power gets distributed more evenly. But that might be me being a utopian :)
Cheers
think u so much for share this post
Post amazing brader.
my mistake aim send u 500 sbd please upvote me or refund me
upvote me. thanks :)
Followback and vote
Thanks for vote my blog
Thank you tons for your support🐉💗
And thanks for a great and easy informative articel on steemit.com :D 💗
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STOPThank you so much @arama for reading my blog and for the upvote.
Your blog is too good. Waiting eagerly to read some more good posts from you... :)
plz back my 0.500sbd.
hi @arama
cant find a current option to thank you for your support . mentioned you in my milestone post as am grateful. thanks. from a minnow
this post very interesting, you're the best @arama i think this post benefits to others. good job!
have a good behaviors in your self @arama
thanks for sharing, i am follow you. My if you have time, let's visit my blog @blacksweet
@arama Thank you for the giant upvote on my friend @mel1ss recent post. I think that she will do well, if she sticks it out with Steemit and her writing! Just wanted to say thanks @jbcoin
reat opinions and classy criticism, hopefully complaints such as brother @arama mention can be resolved. salam from Indonesia @usmansteemit for brother @arama.
How are you arama??
Plisss upvote mehttps://steemit.com/paranoma/@usmansteemit/indah-namun-begitu-singkat
Thanks for good information!
Nice opinion!
Hello friend it's been a long time since you posting new posts hope eveything goes alright with you and i wish to see new posts from you soon.
I have not been in Steam yet, but it's a problem to think about.
And thank you for your interest in my post. Thanks :)
Hi @arama
I Think you're very amazing, your post is very interesting to read.
keep working and give a lot of benefits to people who always follow you.
if you have time, let's visit my blog @bangmimi
Reading the article above, I do not know where in the group on the Steemit platform. But I still minnow here and hope to be a whale someday. I also wrote about the importance of positioning in Steemit.
thank you for sharing this ! Hopefully more people red this ! Followed
Hi @arama The article starts by stating there is a 'shortage' on Steemit, are you able to clarify what is meant by a shortage? As in there are people generally shorting it? Or a shortage of content creator?
Thanks for the educational post, im always trying to learn more about steemit, when I think I have learnt about it there is always more!
Amazing post i like
very good post @arama.
I like the post.👍👍
Nice post @arama.
Hello my friend i notice that is was your own post you've posting and it's been a long time i read it a great topic hope you come back again with new posts and hope everything goes alright with you
After you explain it all I know more about steemit, it seems very easy to use this steemit program, let alone like me, the less fortunate, steemit becomes the solution for the less fortunate like me, and become a field for unemployed people around the world.
Please vote & follow my accounting
@zulf
Thank you @arama
thank you so much @arama amazing post
@arama hello friend :)
you are totally right... important you not only tell us the problems but the possible solutions.. this post is a clear example of what you are saying..at this moment has got 610 votes and only few Steem Dollars for the amazing number of votes .. thank you very much
Please upvote back my post and follow back me @hery0823
Hello my friend hope everything goes alright with you i notice that you haven't posted since a long time maybe there is something wrong hope you come back again waiting for new posts from your part
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@skorek/best-bitcoin-idea-5-first-satoshi-school-is-born
Thanks for sharing.
Friend, thanks for your upvote, I have followed you already.
Semoga sukses sesuai perkembangan zaman....tepuk tangan
Thanks for your post ... I like this your solution system ...thanks again for sharing this post @arama
Very good writing @arama, happy to read this, can add to the science of how the obstacles go, and how good it is solved ...
good article , follow you now
Thank you for everything you did.
Nice.. # @arama
Agree, power needs to be given back to the people who contribute the most and contribute well. Hopefully some changes will occur to make the system fair
Nice
A year has passed since the writing of this post, but the thoughts you have expressed are still relevant. Unfortunately, newcomers still often go unnoticed and this kills their desire to work here. Now I try to attract users from my environment in every possible way. But many quickly get frustrated. They are not ready to fight for their success. Although I believe that if you do your work efficiently, and do not think about the reward, over time, success will inevitably come. I strive to help talented people to be noticed. So I am now the assistant actively help Curie in search of high-quality messages.I also organized a contest to encourage new creative platform people. I would be grateful if you would help me promote the competition so that more people participate. I think, that if you leave your comment under my post, then this will attract many participants.
Hello @arama
This is a great post with several points pointed out here
These points should be reviewed and recommendations taken into consideration.
I love this point;
Personally, I have had this question in mind, I register newbies daily and most of them few discourage when their posts received more popularity but less cash out.
Great recommendations you have here;
If these are taking into consideration, steemit will become better for all and Steem price will definitely increase.
a beautiful post I like .. if there is time to visit my blog because I am new in steemit
follback and vote @khabirulhafiz
@arama I just wanted to stop by and thank you for your generosity and upvote on my most recent post....I am now following, again your generosity is greatly appreciated!!!! Blessings🙏🙏🙏
Very good postings, every new player in steemit always has constraints on how to manage the correct steemit. Thank you for sharing the problem and the solution in playing steemit. Good luck is always for @arama.
good post, I like your post ..
I need your support please visit my blog https://steemit.com/@muliadi
if you like my post please give upvote, resteem &follow me.
thank you, keep on steemit.
can i translate your article into indonesian language
Trying to adapt, I hope to improve.) Thank you for thinking about followers, it is very nice.
Thanks for explain. But I still need to understand myself to really understand it.
Thank you for helping Steemit @arama! I personally liked how you said it: "Wisdom cannot be proportional to the person's economic power." It seems unfair when you see a whale (won't share his id) posting whatever videos and upvoting himself. His vote value is ~25$. And other people support him in the comments "nice post", "amazing video" just because they expect he will upvote their posts too while others put so much more effort and get almost nothing.
Your solutions seem to be reasonable. Thanks again! Followed :)
Thank you so much that you appreciated my post)
I'm very pleased)
Heyyy @arama ! Now Im reading your post :)) Always Im follow you :)))
Thanks for informasion & sulutions
Steemit is helping me through the help of selfless individuals in this platform. @arama
Thanks for your deep thoughts..
Following and voted!! Have a nice day~~
@arama, thanks for your thoughts, I enjoyed your article, I think changes need to be made to the STEEM reward system too, if it going to continue to grow and scale, a lot of people join and then leave the platform, when they get rewards that are too small to warrant the effort. This is ashame, it would be good to have a better onboarding system for new users. Steem could be the dominant blogging platform in the future and might scale other applications which will take other functions away from the centralised platforms like Facebook, LinkedIn, Yourube etc, however if Steem as a decentralised platform is going to win the day, we are going to have to grow the size of the pie and make sure that everyone shares in the benefits, otherwise, someone will come along and create a better version of Steem that has a better rewards structure, EOS aid already talking about launching their own version of Steem in the future.
하...한국인 맞으세요.....?
영어 왤케 잘하심...
I am a new user pls upvote and follow me
hi friend i am a new user plz upvote and follow me.
Dear friends, I agree with your words @arama
엄청난 생각이 담긴 글입니다.@arama님은 어디로 가셨나요? 깊은 생각을 계속해서 보고싶네요"
I little fish do not have many votes, but one word I wish you a happy and happy success arama ☺
Thank you brother @arama has supported steemians in the world, and I see you are very wise to use this blockchain steam, with your post this makes us directional, let alone the solution you are talking about.
once again thanks to brother @arama
your post is very good ... very helpful for beginners
have a good day
I hope Have a nice day too for you
I stumbled on your post while I was going through those who have visited my blog in the last 7 days
That's me
I think the problems of Steemit are greatly tied into the reward system. Your suggestions are quite helpful, if only they will be recommended.
Although I don't understand 'terms'like recommendation and all, I assume they were relevant back in the day when this piece was written.
I think you should wrIte more often too.
Cheers!
Blessings
Hello @arama, good day, I saw your upvote on one of my posts. I would love to have a chat with you. Please, how can I contact you? I am @solomon507#9787 on discord. I really appreciate what you did.
Hello sir, this post is very old but there are lots of basics, there is a lot to learn from here, thank you very much for writing the basics.
Woow amazing, very good
Amazing thanks for sharing
Hmmm this seems like a good idea but up to now i don't think there has been any changes like what you suggested.
As for the 4 types of people, I think I will always be the 3rd type. Oh no. 😁
Hello! I think you will enjoy my post. https://steemit.com/nature/@yetaras/winter-reflections-in-the-river-original-nature-photos
Very good post
Steemit is perfect Media social
@arama thanks for you support
I just saw this sir. By the way, thanks that you noticed my pots before.
@arama .. visit my profil and good or not good..
안녕하세요. 저는 <한겨레21> 변지민 기자라고 합니다. 스팀잇을 소개하는 기사를 준비하고 있습니다.
arama님이 스팀잇의 흔치 않은 한국인 고래라고 들었습니다. 실례지만 고래가 되셨던 과정과 노하우에 대해 여쭙고 싶습니다. 바쁘시겠지만 [email protected] 로 연락 한번 해주실 수 있을까요?
hay @arama thank you very much for sharing good information i will always follow you. and thank you so much I can not say anything more than thank you as much as you vote on the vote you give and already want to see my post is aware because I just learned in this steemit .. hopefully you become my best friend even more than friends and maybe I consider brother ... and I want to be the best and greatest .. thank you once again thank you very much ..
Interesting post @arama
Good luck :)
Thanks vor your abvote
Hi @arama, apologies for the unrelated comment, but I just wrote a post concerning whales on Steemit, voting circles and more. I'm trying to get the attention of some big players on Steemit, in order to get the solutions that I propose more widely seen. I'd really appreciate your feedback on it!
Postingan yang sangat bagus saya menyukainya
Every time I see your post, I become motivated to make a post as good as your post.
I always follow your account, hopefully we can be friends.
I really like posting a very lucrative arama all my friends steemit.salam me for you arama.link l https://steemit.com/@nazaruddin885
Let me follow you, and follow me too
Let me follow you, and follow me too
Thankyou for sharing , i like post
Plz brother i follow u and upvote my post
This is actually a really awesome idea!
I know that I would be able to attract more people to join Steemit if your suggestions were implemented.
Thank you.
How do we go about making these kinds of changes?
Also, this article helped clarify many things for me in understanding how Steemit works. Thank you. Kamsamnada
🙏🏽
This was some great info :) thanks for sharing
I am sure this third group will be a strength for Steemit in the future. They will continue to grow.
Steemit requires many people and groups to continue to grow. All groups will be Steemit's strength.
it's amazing i love this post.. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for the help. happy to be friends with you good luck always.
Really amazing information, many parties who want to grow through steemit among myself, I like your posts
Hello my dear so one year now you haven't posted maybe you're busy or maybe there's a problem! Hope you are well and hope you start posting again.
Thank you for sharing this post is very helpul.
And also a good translation
Thank you waiting for the other post :)
good luch
Thanku arama bro :-) u have given me 11 $ thanku so much bro :-)
Like help me please @arama
Hello Mr @arama
How are you, are you busy?
wow that information is so important for beginners like us
good luck I support you continue
Very interesting and good thoughts.
Thank you for sharing.
when yes I will get a vote from you 😁
very good post, I want to follow you, and want to learn about your post ??
posting is very amazing my friend very like. thank you for sharing friends. please help me my beautiful friend.
@arama how long will steemit remain in beta??
Good information
Thank you @arama for your support to my post
Hey whats up! nice seein u round here! Just got a surprise upvote from @arama and wanted to come check through their old posts and Thank this Arama Entity :D I love you steem whales youre all so inspiring! These cryptocurrency rewards are always so inspiring!
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STOPI've been here for almost a year now, what is your opinion @arama, things got better? My concerns are why is Steemit.com delegating to so many spam accounts, even the initial stake of now 15SP for new members seems a waste when a lot of people try to take advantage of this by opening hundreds of accounts and do stuff with it to steal. Accounts need to be reviewed and in my opinion, all SP needs to be pulled away after a short period of time. If even delegated in the first place...
Im curious to know too. Im just now starting to figure out how the payouts work. i would like to know what other people think, especially since the bots are still kind of new, and the sbd value has risen. Steemit has so much potential but there are serious issues that need to be fixed in order for it to grow and retain users.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@miss-j/do-all-bidbots-actually-make-you-lose-money-why-are-50-50-payouts-not-paid-in-50-sbd-50-sbd-worth-of-steem
oh it's amazing and ...
스팀잇의 발전을 위해 노력해주셔서 감사합니다. @bigthumbsup 올립니다.
Thank you so much for supporting me. I can't find any better place to say this, so I write it here. 감사합니다!
@arama, I often hear your name, if you upvote my friends are very grateful, you make me curious, hope you are fine there, I am amazed you. :)
folback @arama :D
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